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The Best Batgirl Trap
08/17/07 at 8:53pm
 
I was watching the 3rd season of Batman today, and thought about the traps that Batgirl was placed in and decided that the best one was the Cat Wiskers. So, what does everybody eals think is the best Batgirl trap, and what are your ideas for some.
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Reply #1 - 08/17/07 at 9:02pm
 
Catwisker is my favourite, She is tied left to die and gets out of it by herself.
More brains than beauty at that moment. As fore different ideas, Ill get back later.
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Reply #2 - 08/17/07 at 9:58pm
 
I liked the one where Batgirl is bound to the giant power pattern cutting machine ( Episode # 108-

Catwoman's Dressed To Kill ).  Batman calls Alfred who disguises himself as the worlds oldest

hippie and rescues Batgirl.   Smiley

I also liked when Batgirl was put into the large vat of caviar ( Episode # 109 - The Ogg Couple ).

Batman and Robin save her from drowning.    Smiley


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http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/8120/index.html

Twof's Batgirl Bat-Trap Home Page! has plenty of information about the various Batgirl traps, as well as new stories which present new and unusual traps.
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Reply #4 - 08/18/07 at 5:29am
 
Catwoman's Pattern Cutter machine.

It would have been a very sad and gory ending for Batgirl if Catwoman was succesful or if Alfred did not make it on time.
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Reply #5 - 08/18/07 at 1:51pm
 
I always loved Batgirl trapped in the pattern cutter. I also loved the comic book version of that trap in Detective 410.

I just wish that Batgirl had been lured into more traps like in the year 1 episodes found Batman and Robin.
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Reply #6 - 08/18/07 at 5:31pm
 
Pattern cutter, no worrie Alfred to the rescue. Louie the Lilac, the thought of being boiled in eck!!
If the knock spray would not of wore off, goodnite Batgirl.
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Reply #7 - 08/18/07 at 5:49pm
 
For me its the Siamase knot trap all the way!!!!  pink
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Reply #8 - 08/18/07 at 6:10pm
 
how  about  drowning  in  "caviar" ?? Shocked
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The Jokers rocket, now there's a blast Wink
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Reply #10 - 08/19/07 at 2:16am
 
I would have to say the pattern cutter trap by a cat's  whisker over the cats whiskers trap.

coolest capture the paralyzing gas in Lord Fogg's cricket pavillion. worst trap Deadly Fogg pellets.
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Reply #11 - 08/19/07 at 3:27pm
 
Smiley The Cat wiskers and the Pattern Cutter are the most espectaculars and kinky bat-traps at all.
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Reply #12 - 08/19/07 at 5:34pm
 
Has to be the Human KNot Trap....(and what red-blooded human male would not have loved to be in that predicament with the lovely Yvonne???)
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CoolOh yhea, yeha mi too, but the feline presence off Catwoman is its insuperable.
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Reply #14 - 08/19/07 at 10:08pm
 
Are we not missing the worst one?  When Penguin kidnaps Brabra to marry.
Shutter to think of what would of happened, if the bat wasn't let out of the bag.
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Reply #15 - 08/20/07 at 6:25pm
 
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Are we not missing the worst one?  When Penguin kidnaps Brabra to marry.
Shutter to think of what would of happened, if the bat wasn't let out of the bag.

Very true but thank goodness for alfried being in the right place at the right time Wink Pink
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1 bat 1girl wrote
"Are we not missing the worst one?  When Penguin kidnaps Brabra to marry.
Shutter to think of what would of happened, if the bat wasn't let out of the bag."

While it was a diabolical plan it doesn't rate as a Batgirl trap because it was a plan to marry Barbara Gordon not Batgirl. Unlike the episode where Marsha Queen of Diamonds was trying to blackmail Batman into wedlock.

While we knew Batgirl's alter ego Penguin didn't.
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Reply #17 - 08/20/07 at 9:41pm
 
perilicious wrote on 08/20/07 at 9:00pm:
1 bat 1girl wrote
"Are we not missing the worst one?  When Penguin kidnaps Brabra to marry.
Shutter to think of what would of happened, if the bat wasn't let out of the bag."

While it was a diabolical plan it doesn't rate as a Batgirl trap because it was a plan to marry Barbara Gordon not Batgirl. Unlike the episode where Marsha Queen of Diamonds was trying to blackmail Batman into wedlock.

While we knew Batgirl's alter ego Penguin didn't.


In a way yes I concur, but if it was aloud to play out :
1 Penguin and Brabra are married.
2 Penguin is now commissioner Gordons son inlaw.
3 Penguin is now in a position to use blackmale on commissioner Gordon.
4 Batgirl is now forced to choose between father and husban.
5 Cannot choose husban without breaking the law.
6 Cannot choose father without revealing her secert identity,  
7 Thus being traped in a no win scenario.
So in the long run Penguin traped Batgirl without even knowing it.
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perilicious wrote on 08/20/07 at 9:00pm:
1 bat 1girl wrote
"Are we not missing the worst one?  When Penguin kidnaps Brabra to marry.
Shutter to think of what would of happened, if the bat wasn't let out of the bag."

While it was a diabolical plan it doesn't rate as a Batgirl trap because it was a plan to marry Barbara Gordon not Batgirl. Unlike the episode where Marsha Queen of Diamonds was trying to blackmail Batman into wedlock.

While we knew Batgirl's alter ego Penguin didn't.


In a way yes I concur, but if it was aloud to play out :
1 Penguin and Brabra are married.
2 Penguin is now commissioner Gordons son inlaw.
3 Penguin is now in a position to use blackmale on commissioner Gordon.
4 Batgirl is now forced to choose between father and husban.
5 Cannot choose husban without breaking the law.
6 Cannot choose father without revealing her secert identity,  
7 Thus being traped in a no win scenario.
So in the long run Penguin traped Batgirl without even knowing it.


also correct me if I'm wrong, if Penguin had married Barabra, then more then likely there would have never been a Batgirl in the first place, the ultimate trap preventing a hero from ever becoming a hero
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Reply #19 - 08/20/07 at 11:41pm
 
Batgirl had already been established before the kidnaping.  Thus the never shown but offten played
Batgirl pilot. Thank goodness because the newer costume is better.
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I kind of like the deadly knitting needle.   Huh
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On the other hand, the Fogg dungeon was a trap which just kept going and going.  Kind of like the dungeon itself.  Look!  No walls!   Grin
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Reply #22 - 08/21/07 at 1:29am
 
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And the scaredy-bat fear gas trap deserves mention, because Batgirl makes this really great sqeak when Batman tries to push her in front of him.  All three of them are very funny in this sequence.   Cheesy
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1 bat 1girl wrote
"In a way yes I concur, but if it was aloud to play out :
1 Penguin and Brabra are married.
2 Penguin is now commissioner Gordons son inlaw.
3 Penguin is now in a position to use blackmale on commissioner Gordon.
4 Batgirl is now forced to choose between father and husban.
5 Cannot choose husban without breaking the law.
6 Cannot choose father without revealing her secert identity,   
7 Thus being traped in a no win scenario.
So in the long run Penguin traped Batgirl without even knowing it."

i think Alfred was to be the minister. was he a legitmate minister? if not the marriage would be null and void. even if he was a legitimate minister surely Barbara could file for anullment because she was under duress.

I liked the fear gas episode it's just a pity Shame didn't put Batgirl in a trap later.  nice pics Cage.
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Batgirl had already been established before the kidnaping.  Thus the never shown but offten played
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Surely, as far as the story was concerned, nobody had heard of Batgirl until she appeared after Penguin's line about teaching B&R a lesson.  She replies "If you're holding class, perhaps you'd include Batgirl as a student" to which Pengy, B&R and Alfred all react by repeating this new name with surprise.  True, Batgirl was established to viewers inasmuch as we'd been told she was going to be in the series, and network execs knew of her via the unseen pilot, but in the context of the series, that was the first time anyone had ever heard of her.
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Lips Sealed Smiley Yummy, yummy, Batgirl trap by the infamous Nora Clavicula.
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    I think the point about Penguin's marriage to Barbara Gordon's preventing Batgirl from appearing in Gotham City in terms of the showCs continuity is very well taken.

    Catwoman clearly deserves credit for devising two of the most lethal means of ushering our heroine from existence.  The pattern cutter was a nasty diversion for Batman and Robin.  Though, couldn't they have split up to stop Catwoman's crime and save Batgirl?

    The Cat's Whiskers were delightfully lethal and no one had a clue our heroine had been impereiled for those few, critical seconds.

    Shame missed a golden opportunity to get rid of Batgirl when he had her.  Why not try to hang her or something?

    The biggest missed opportunity was Lord Phogg's treatment.  He had caught her in his hidden Cricket pavilion and shackled her to a wall in a genuine dungeon.  Suppose it could have been flooded and drained or something?

    Oh, the Siamese Human Knot is the best way shown to get rid of all of our heroes at once.  I've read the Joker and Catwoman script originally had something cooked up for all of them and the powers that be decided we viewers would forget what it was after a week.

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Pennyworth wrote on 08/21/07 at 7:50am:
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Batgirl had already been established before the kidnaping.  Thus the never shown but offten played
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Surely, as far as the story was concerned, nobody had heard of Batgirl until she appeared after Penguin's line about teaching B&R a lesson.  She replies "If you're holding class, perhaps you'd include Batgirl as a student" to which Pengy, B&R and Alfred all react by repeating this new name with surprise.  True, Batgirl was established to viewers inasmuch as we'd been told she was going to be in the series, and network execs knew of her via the unseen pilot, but in the context of the series, that was the first time anyone had ever heard of her.


True, but what I was trying to point out was, that the Batgirl was established before the kidnaping.  In order for Brabara to tell the Penguin an others about Batgirl she would of had to conceive the idea of Batgirl long before the kidnaping.
Therefore the end result a batgirl trap.
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True, but what I was trying to point out was, that the Batgirl was established before the kidnaping.  In order for Brabara to tell the Penguin an others about Batgirl she would of had to conceive the idea of Batgirl long before the kidnaping.
Therefore the end result a batgirl trap.


Barbara's origins as Batgirl are really an interesting question which I wish they'd bothered to explain a bit more.  She's already, in episode 95, very concerned about her "secret" (when she talks to Alfred, baffling him) and her usefulness as a crimefighter.  As far as we can tell, her secret couldn't have been anything she'd taken into public at the time of the episode, and there's no evidence that she'd developed any previous crimefighting experience.  Yet, here she is, with an existing costume, secret life, arsenal, customized motorcycle, mysterious hidden room in her apartment, alleyway exit which is astonishingly disguised as a brick wall.  None of this makes any sense at all.  I've filled notebooks trying to write an origin which is consistent with, and manages to explain, all of this.   Grin

Nobody had heard of her, in episode 95.  Everyone is baffled as all get-out when she announces herself.  But she's been developing all of this for, apparently, months or years.  Yet - she's been away at college!  Where did she have time to return from school, get the apartment, discover the secret room and outfit it, etc?  She's new around here, herself.

It's a puzzle.   Huh
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Reply #29 - 08/21/07 at 8:31pm
 
Puzzling yes. Perhaps we should start a new thread on the origin of Batgirl.

My main point of this thread is to make a observation that the Penguin kidnaping in a sence
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I think the Penguin kidnapping was a Barbara Gordon bat-trap.   Tongue

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But I don't disagree with you, either.

Sorry to have helped drag the thread OT.  It's a bad habit of mine. I even do it with my own threads.   Embarrassed
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Not at all, I love your insites and a endless supply of wisdom. I started a new thread about the
Origin of Batgirl.  Lets get down with it. Cool

Now in a bad quote  "were do you get all thoes fancy pictures Grin
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Cage wrote "Sorry to have helped drag the thread OT.  It's a bad habit of mine. I even do it with my own threads. "

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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 08/21/07 at 1:23am:
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On the other hand, the Fogg dungeon was a trap which just kept going and going.  Kind of like the dungeon itself.  Look!  No walls!   Grin  


Quite so, this one seemed to be endless as you say. One mite congur up a few unkowns that could happen in the dark fall corners. Its one of the few English dungeons that has no rack, wiping wall.
By the way she is chained up that must be for the hot pokers or did they do that backwards?

The pellets scare me the most , for one does not know what happens when unconscious.
Strange that her feet were not bound. Being a part contortionist could have kicked her foot up
to the shackles. Must of been some device in the boot for picking locks or a file of some sort.
With legs and arms in shackles almost useless and totaly vulnerablr.
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Perhaps the notoriously low budgets wouldn't run to chains for her ankles! Wink
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Pennyworth wrote on 08/24/07 at 7:43am:
Perhaps the notoriously low budgets wouldn't run to chains for her ankles! Wink


Thay would almost make too much sence, givin the past record of some studios.
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Reply #36 - 08/27/07 at 2:34am
 
Yes, she could have banged up their shins nicely in the dungeon, with her feet unchained.  Hmm.  Yvonne sounds like she may have liked to give Rudy a nice kick anyway....   Grin

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I don't remember that anyone mentioned the deadly peril of the re-hydrated fish eggs.  This scene has made me wonder: what does caviar smell like?
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Reply #37 - 08/27/07 at 6:15pm
 
That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 08/27/07 at 2:34am:
Yes, she could have banged up their shins nicely in the dungeon, with her feet unchained.  Hmm.  Yvonne sounds like she may have liked to give Rudy a nice kick anyway....   Grin

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I don't remember that anyone mentioned the deadly peril of the re-hydrated fish eggs.  This scene has made me wonder: what does caviar smell like?


Oily,it must be a preferd taste. I found it to be substance without  merit.  Fore the price, I can see
why its a status thing. I much rather have shark or alligator, much more tender and sweater.


Ok, if Batman was pushed down the stairs, and the pellots were tossed into the dundgen, just how did Batman and Bagirl stay conscious long enought to get out the batspray. Was their forwarning about the pellots? Took a pre batgas pill?
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Reply #38 - 08/28/07 at 7:34am
 
Ok, if Batman was pushed down the stairs, and the pellots were tossed into the dundgen, just how did Batman and Bagirl stay conscious long enought to get out the batspray.

I think Batman just remarked that the pellets were duds or something similar. typical third season lame writing.
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Reply #39 - 08/28/07 at 2:40pm
 
Yeh, the third season writing left a lot of holes.  Barbara gets to say "I'll explain later" at least once in each of the Londinium episode, for instance, but never explains later.   Tongue

I don't remember what, if any, explanation was offered for the situation with those pellets when both were in the dungeon.  I'll have to fire up that episode and see how that scene plays.

And I notice that someone had already mentioned the caviar dunk trap.   Embarrassed
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Reply #40 - 08/28/07 at 8:27pm
 
I recall Batman being pushed,  the next shot was him with the batspray. I myself do not have a tape of this, but just what was the dialoge?  Can anyone quote it?
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Reply #41 - 08/28/07 at 11:23pm
 
"Can anyone quote it?"

Batgirl: The Anti-Lethal Fog Bat-Spray is working, Batman!

Batman: Yes, I always carry some in my utility belt, along with the... Bat-File.  Now to get you out of these chains.

After which follows a sequence which a Freudian would presumably have a lot of fun interpreting.   Tongue


This is one of my personal faves, because she looks right into the camera for a moment, breaking the "fourth wall".

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Reply #42 - 08/28/07 at 11:58pm
 
That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 08/28/07 at 11:23pm:
"Can anyone quote it?"

Batgirl: The Anti-Lethal Fog Bat-Spray is working, Batman!

Batman: Yes, I always carry some in my utility belt, along with the... Bat-File.  Now to get you out of these chains.

After which follows a sequence which a Freudian would presumably have a lot of fun interpreting.   Tongue


This is one of my personal faves, because she looks right into the camera for a moment, breaking the "fourth wall".

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Why thank you, but is that not a picture from Shame'is not the dundgen of Lord Fogg?
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Reply #43 - 08/29/07 at 12:14am
 
"Why thank you, but is that not a picture from Shame'is not the dundgen of Lord Fogg?"

It didn't occur to me that it might be good to have some pics to go with the quote.  Here are a few to remedy my oversight.

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Somehow Adam very much resembles our own Mr. Sebring (in his own bat-costume) to me in these images.  Hmm.

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Reply #44 - 08/29/07 at 11:54am
 
That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 08/29/07 at 12:14am:
"Why thank you, but is that not a picture from Shame'is not the dundgen of Lord Fogg?"

It didn't occur to me that it might be good to have some pics to go with the quote.  Here are a few to remedy my oversight.

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Somehow Adam very much resembles our own Mr. Sebring (in his own bat-costume) to me in these images.  Hmm.
Adam does resemble scott in the Cape&Cowl Cool Pink
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Reply #45 - 08/29/07 at 7:00pm
 
Cage although I've seen most of theses pics before your pictures are much better than a lot of stuff I've found online, thanks. Are you digitally enhancing them?
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Reply #46 - 08/29/07 at 7:25pm
 
Pinkcowl66 wrote on 08/18/07 at 5:49pm:
For me its the Siamase knot trap all the way!!!!  pink


That is my favourite, too!!!

And I proposed a variation, involving Batman, John Steed and Inspector Lewis Erskine!   Grin
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Reply #47 - 08/29/07 at 9:51pm
 
For me its Catwiskers, one of the few times that Batgirl is not freed by someone else.
As for the Siamase knot, hate to get picked with thoes needels Wink Grin
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Reply #48 - 08/30/07 at 1:22am
 
That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 08/29/07 at 12:14am:
Somehow Adam very much resembles our own Mr. Sebring (in his own bat-costume) to me in these images.  Hmm.

Scott is definitely channeling Adam in a very good way!!
By the way, you gotta love that file in those pics you posted!
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Reply #49 - 08/30/07 at 1:27am
 
Commish wrote on 08/30/07 at 1:22am:
Scott is definitely channeling Adam in a very good way!!


Agreed!  Scott looks great!!!  I think the angle from which we see Adam's face in these may be what suggests the heightened resemblance to me.  I certainly didn't mean it in any bad way.   Cheesy
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Reply #50 - 09/01/07 at 7:36pm
 
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Batgirl: The Anti-Lethal Fog Bat-Spray is working, Batman!

Batman: Yes, I always carry some in my utility belt, along with the... Bat-File.  Now to get you out of these chains.

After which follows a sequence which a Freudian would presumably have a lot of fun interpreting.   Tongue


This is one of my personal faves, because she looks right into the camera for a moment, breaking the "fourth wall".

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Why thank you, but is that not a picture from Shame'is not the dundgen of Lord Fogg?



Pryor to the bat spray, What were the first set of pellets that Lord Fogg threw at batgirl, some sort pre lethel pellet. Or some sort of strong stimulant.
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Reply #51 - 09/02/07 at 12:39am
 
The first batch of Lethal Fog Pellets thrown at Batgirl, at the beginning of The Bloody Tower, had gone stale somehow and were ineffective.  Once the baddies realize this, they rush off for a fresh batch.  Then Batman sneaks in and ends up being there for the second batch of pellets.

And no strong stimulants!  No, no, no!  Bad, bad, bad.   Grin
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Reply #52 - 09/02/07 at 2:56pm
 
Paralyzed, captured and chained in the dungeon of Ffogg Place:)
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Reply #53 - 09/07/07 at 9:11pm
 
syntaur wrote on 09/02/07 at 2:56pm:
Paralyzed, captured and chained in the dungeon of Ffogg Place:)


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Reply #54 - 09/07/07 at 9:21pm
 
Is that an enlargement of a still, syntaur?
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Reply #55 - 09/08/07 at 5:41pm
 
More traps, just for fun.   Cheesy

Caught in the whiskers!

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Catwoman reveals her plans!

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Strapped to the rocket!

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Still strapped to the rocket!

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Reply #56 - 09/09/07 at 2:44am
 
More Londinium images:)
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Reply #57 - 09/09/07 at 8:40am
 
syntaur wrote on 09/09/07 at 2:44am:
More Londinium images:)


Very nice indeed, just one thing, you cut out Batgirl. On the other hand Ive never seen this photo before, nice.
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Reply #58 - 09/09/07 at 6:10pm
 
That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/08/07 at 5:41pm:
More traps, just for fun.   Cheesy

Caught in the whiskers!

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Free at last!

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Catwoman reveals her plans!

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Strapped to the rocket!

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Still strapped to the rocket!

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Reply #59 - 09/10/07 at 11:15pm
 
Soo hottie the scene Batman with Batgirl-Chair Tongue
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Reply #60 - 09/10/07 at 11:39pm
 
I've been rereading some of these post and we have forgot one thing. What lead up to her getting caught. We have been joing in halfway through. If it was not a ploy then can it be called a trap, or just bad luck. Catwiskers if a trap. It was planned,
Catwoman taking out the sparkplug, The bad guys tieing Batgirl up, Catwoman explanning the wiskers in the heat, ect.
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Reply #61 - 09/11/07 at 7:41am
 
"I've been rereading some of these post and we have forgot one thing. What lead up to her getting caught. We have been joing in halfway through. If it was not a ploy then can it be called a trap, or just bad luck."

All of the traps I remember were planned the villain's (esses) explanation of their diabolical devices was one of the staples of the show.

sometimes ther were encounters but no traps these usually took place mid episode except for the fear gas trap which was at the end. So if the criminals weren't prepared they usually fled.

There was one time when Batgirl encountered Penguin and his goons in the street and he just gassed her and left her. this was a no trap.

Shame used fear gas after the terrific trio won the fight to turn the tables and kidnapped Batgirl for insurance but alas he failed to place her in a trap

Egghead use eggs laid by hens which had eaten nothing but onions for 6 months to evade the terrific trio.
I think Joker may have used sneezing powder to evade the dynamic duo. Catwoman's cat delivered a dose of catatonic to KO Robin and then capitalised on Batman's reaction to help out his old chum, and thus she evaded capture.

It's irrelevant whether there was a ploy or not in the capture the death traps were always planned. In Joker's flying saucer Batgirl was apprehended coming through a window (Joker said this we didn't see it) but strapped her on a rocket bound for outer space. it might have been a lucky capture, but a trap is neither more or less perilous because it was just down to luck.

it is however far better viewing to watch the arch criminals implement a plan to capture their Bat foes.
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Reply #62 - 09/17/07 at 12:37am
 
More pictures of traps!  Why not?   Cheesy

Two Lundinium dungeons for 1 bat 1girl

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Gagged by Shame.  Or did I do this one already?  See, I forget.  Oh well.

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Why you shouldn't feed those chickens onions.

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Pressure!

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Careful with that sword, Olga!

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Ooh, and now, after posting these pix, I read perilicious's last post.  Hmm.  Cage isn't posting traps, so much as peril, most of the time.  Traps and peril aren't the same thing!  Hmm.

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Reply #63 - 09/17/07 at 10:34am
 
"Traps and peril aren't the same thing!  Hmm."
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She sure got tied up alot!


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Reply #65 - 09/17/07 at 12:43pm
 
I was watching The Penguin's Clean Sweep and noticed something. Penguin had such a great chance to defeat Batgirl. When he knocked Batgirl out with his umbrella gas all he had to do to finish her off was take out an infected dollar bill and rub it on her face and she would have been put to sleep for years.
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Reply #66 - 09/17/07 at 3:52pm
 
the best traps/perils are still the cossack sabre dance and the caviar dunk from the ogg couple. Any chance we can see from pics of that one cage?

those traps are great; it's too bad you've never seen any of the female fans dressed as batgirl on here do there version of the cossack sabre dance.
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Reply #67 - 09/17/07 at 11:02pm
 
egghead wrote on 09/17/07 at 3:52pm:
the best traps/perils are still the cossack sabre dance and the caviar dunk from the ogg couple. Any chance we can see from pics of that one cage?

those traps are great; it's too bad you've never seen any of the female fans dressed as batgirl on here do there version of the cossack sabre dance.


I tried, just can't handle getting stuck with a sword. Wink
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Reply #68 - 09/17/07 at 11:06pm
 
That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/17/07 at 12:37am:
More pictures of traps!  Why not?   Cheesy

Two Lundinium dungeons
Ooh, and now, after posting these pix, I read perilicious's last post.  Hmm.  Cage isn't posting traps, so much as peril, most of the time.  Traps and peril aren't the same thing!  Hmm.

Oh well.  It's close enough to being on topic....


Nailed it. Thats peril. The sudden stop, thats traped. Nothing more and nothing less. Now to disfuse the difference between a trap, an just bad luck.
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Reply #69 - 09/18/07 at 12:03am
 
BatgirlFan mentioned the Penguin's umbrella gas in Clean Sweep....

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Pengy really was a bit dense, for not taking advantage of his opportunity.  I'm glad he didn't!  There wasn't much to the third season after that, but I'd have hated to see Batgirl sleep through all of it.   Grin
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Reply #70 - 09/18/07 at 12:06am
 
Some saber dancing for egghead.

Is she smiling in this one, or am I mistaken?

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She looks like she's smiling in this one, too.  Ms. Craig, will you please stop laughing!

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Reply #71 - 09/18/07 at 12:10am
 
Finally, a couple of caviar dunks for egghead.

Part 1: the grab (Is she smiling again?!?)

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For most of these two traps, the figures aren't anywhere close to the foreground, so they're kind of smallish and not too well-defined in these captures.  Sequences like these are really better in motion... or, better still, on a REAL ACTUAL-FACTUAL DVD RELEASE!!  C'mon, warnerfoxdcpeople!  Release them!
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Reply #72 - 09/18/07 at 1:16am
 
thank you for the pictures cage.

lol she does look like she's smiling while she is doing the sabre dance for olga and egghead. And in the picture where she's being carried by egghead to the caviar vat.

would the cossack sabre dance actually work in real life? it seems like it would depend on the dancer, wether or not she was willing to actually perform the dance.
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Reply #73 - 09/18/07 at 1:35am
 
I'm actually unclear about the whole point of the saber dance, as a trap.  As a story device, it was a nice opportunity to let Yvonne show her skills.  As a trap, it doesn't seem so much like a threat as an endurance test, designed to exhaust her.  Toward the end of the sequence, she's stumbling and falling against the Cossacks, and they don't skewer her with the frosted swwwords, or slash at her or anything.  They just push her back into the dancing ring.  Perhaps because of the exhaustion, Batgirl was almost totally helpless in the caviar dunk.  But was the exhaustion the point of the dance?

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Reply #74 - 09/18/07 at 1:44am
 
That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/18/07 at 1:35am:
I'm actually unclear about the whole point of the saber dance, as a trap.  As a story device, it was a nice opportunity to let Yvonne show her skills.  As a trap, it doesn't seem so much like a threat as an endurance test, designed to exhaust her.  Toward the end of the sequence, she's stumbling and falling against the Cossacks, and they don't skewer her with the frosted swwwords, or slash at her or anything.  They just push her back into the dancing ring.  Perhaps because of the exhaustion, Batgirl was almost totally helpless in the caviar dunk.  But was the exhaustion the point of the dance?

Hmm.


i think it is a good trap. like you said, it was made to show of yvonne craigs dancing skills. i think it wasnt so much meant as a death trap but as a means of humiliation for batgirl, olga and egghead making batgirl dance for them. although she looks scared when they tell her what there going to do to her, but during the dance itself she doesnt seem too worried. the point of it may have been to exaughst her, if tey always planned on dunking her in the caviar. but if that was there plan why did they wait till batman and robin showed up to dunk her? they always could have just tossed her in to begin with or made her walk the plank in to it or something. i think the dance is a good trap, i just am not sure if it could work in real life, if you could actually make someone do it.
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Reply #75 - 09/18/07 at 1:51am
 
I think it's a good trap, too!

I think it could probably be made to work in real life, assuming the person made to do the dance was adequately fit and knew how to dance.  You could do the same thing with pushups, perhaps, or jumping jacks, or any physically demanding pursuit.  (Sorry, bad gym class flashbacks....)

I'll butt out now and let others answer.   Cheesy
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Reply #76 - 09/18/07 at 7:53am
 
"She sure got tied up alot!"
Actually Batman and Robin got tied up much more than Batgirl. For several episodes at the start of the third season Batgirl would join the Dynamic Duo and defeat the baddies and we went trapless.

In the first and second season Batman and/or Robin would get caught and tied to a deathtrap almost every time they faced a villain. This probably was due to the writers departing from the 2 part episodes in the third season. I wonder if they had kept this format if the show would have lasted longer.

" As a trap, it doesn't seem so much like a threat as an endurance test, designed to exhaust her.  Toward the end of the sequence, she's stumbling and falling against the Cossacks, and they don't skewer her with the frosted swwwords, or slash at her or anything.  They just push her back into the dancing ring."

Batman and Robin showed up in time to save Batgirl and spoil the criminals fun. If they hadn't been there things might have been different.

"if tey always planned on dunking her in the caviar. but if that was there plan why did they wait till batman and robin showed up to dunk her?"
They didn't always plan on dunking her. That was an improvised trap that Olga thought up after the sabre dance had been interrupted.

Batgirl's smiling might just be an optical illusion watching the whole sequence might reveal whether she is or not.
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Reply #77 - 09/18/07 at 11:48am
 
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The Best Batgirl Trap IMO: the Siamese Human Knot, of course:

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/2517/
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The second best, the Cat's Whiskers:

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/8120/whiskers.html
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Third, the Alvino Ray Gun:

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Of course, you can always go to The Batgirl Bat-Trap Homepage! and decide for yourself!  Grin

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Reply #78 - 09/18/07 at 2:10pm
 
very neat website twof. youve done a lot of work. the siamese human knot is a good trap; i wonder if that would work in real life. i dont think it would.

another observation about the caviar dunk: when batman and robin save batgirl from the vat and pull her out, shouldnt she be soaking wet and covered in caviar? there doesnt seem to be any on her. considering she was sinking in it and sank under at the end (batman and robin have to look for her because she was drowning in the caviar and went under) why wasnt she covered in caviar? Batman pulls a brush out and it looks like he cleans her off, but there wasnt any caviar on her.
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Reply #79 - 09/18/07 at 7:39pm
 
Twof is the trapmaster!  Woot!

The caviar dunk's effect on Batgirl was necessarily limited, I think, by their third season special effects budget.  They used, what? diced Jell-o or something for the caviar.  It always looked more like bits of foam rubber, to me.  You can see bits of it clinging to Batgirl after she's drawn out of the tub, but not specifically in the location Batman brushes.  We do get to see the Batgirl costume get all wet at the end of the Cat's Whiskers sequence, anyway.  The tights really bag and sag once they're soaked.   Tongue
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Reply #80 - 09/18/07 at 8:15pm
 
i didnt know that it was jello that they used. i knew it wasnt real caviar haha, but i always assumed that because it was gray that it was kitty litter lol. i thought they could have made it more realistic though, have her covered in caviar, since she sank all the way under. olga must have been desperate, since she wanted to eat the caviar i guess (why else would you rob caviar from a bank?) since she made egghead throw batgirl in there to drown. olga was a good villain.

the cats whiskers is also a good trap. i always imagined it was like fishing line, which is so thin and tight. i imagine taht would be very painful.
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Reply #81 - 09/18/07 at 8:29pm
 
Olga was mean, much meaner than Egghead.  He seems like a nice guy by comparison.  Perhaps that's why people seem to think that Olga reduced Egghead's impact in their joint appearances.  Hmm.  I love the interaction between Batgirl and Egghead in The Ogg Couple.  Vincent Price was her favorite guest on the show, and I think we can see a bit of how she liked him in the playful quality of their encounter.

If you look at the "free at last!" vidcap I posted for the Cat's Whiskers, you can see how the fishing line they used for the whiskers was already loosened and slipping off of her before the sprinkler was ever activated.  They didn't wrap her tightly enough for it to be too uncomfortable in reality.  It looks like an uncomfortable scene to have filmed, though.  The vidcaps also show sweat patches on the Batgirl suit (unless they filmed the sequence more than once, or out of order, and the suit was previously soaked by the sprinklers).  It must have been hot, lying there in the California sun in that costume, tied up in fishing line.
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Reply #82 - 09/19/07 at 12:31am
 
Stop me if Im repeating myself 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8  Ha couldn't could you.
The Catwiskers is perhaps the best trap. Why? Because it was a trap. That feindish Catwoman and Joker, ploting, and ploying, just up to no good. For as Im sorry to say all I have is the frame by frame on the vcr and so not notice such details. But as a trap, they knew just hen to grab her an tie her up. No Batman or Robin around to assist her. This is one of the few traps that she was able to escape from by herself.

The Ogg Couple, was it a trap or just bad luck? I have very little recall on the start of it, but doo have some old footage of her slipping on the caviar and being knocked unconscious. Upon the return to consciousness, her arms bound behind her and the Cossack dance. My guess is that its not a laugh
but a gasp, almost being impailed by one of thoes swords would make me gasp. When Eggie placed her in the caviar, think of the word O put put some kind of a protest to it. Even the word no would serfice. I have never found caviar to be that cold, cool but not frezing( maybe thats why I don't care for it)

For something to be a trap does it not have to be premeditated?
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I think she was freezing less because of the temperature of the caviar than because the villains' hideout was in an icehouse or something.  The room itself was supposed to be cold, and she was supposed to be wet, although she really wasnt, as egghead noted.

Should the Saber Dance not be classified as a trap?  Hmm.

Batgirl slipped on caviar, but Olga deliberately threw the caviar under the heroine's feet.

You and perilicious are probably right about the illusory quality of the apparent smiles in the vidcaps.  I can't help but wonder, though.  I keep finding a lot of stills where she looks amused while fighting.

The Cat's Whiskers is a good trap, yes.  Cage likes all of the traps.  he can't decide which one to favor.   Huh
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/19/07 at 1:03am:
I think she was freezing less because of the temperature of the caviar than because the villains' hideout was in an icehouse or something.  The room itself was supposed to be cold, and she was supposed to be wet, although she really wasnt, as egghead noted.

Should the Saber Dance not be classified as a trap?  Hmm.

Batgirl slipped on caviar, but Olga deliberately threw the caviar under the heroine's feet.

You and perilicious are probably right about the illusory quality of the apparent smiles in the vidcaps.  I can't help but wonder, though.  I keep finding a lot of stills where she looks amused while fighting.

I will realy touch on some of this in my Batgirl orgin, Actions....................words. Its to long so I will have to shorten it up a little.( 1st draft)
The Cat's Whiskers is a good trap, yes.  Cage likes all of the traps.  he can't decide which one to favor.   Huh

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Reply #85 - 09/19/07 at 1:21am
 
"For something to be a trap does it not have to be premeditated?"

Yes.

But traps and deathtraps are different

Maybe this will help.
Deathtrap: a trap designed to Kill a superhero or spy in a bizzare manner eg Cats whiskers, Batman and Robin staked to the ground by shame in the path of stampeding cattle.
Emma Peel tied to railroad tracks on the Avengers.

Trap anything used to catch or trick, especially unexpectedly. eg Riddler set a trap for batman with the gun shaped cigarrette lighter and waiting photographer, a nice trick indeed. traps often have an element of ambush to them eg weighted umbrella KO ing B&R or Cornelia Triggering the trapdoor that caused B&R to slide into boxes where they were trapped. Paralysing gas used to (trap) incapacitate Batgirl inside Lord Fogg's cricket pavillion.

On the show arch criminals routinely use traps to capture Batman, Batgirl and Robin and then while they are helpless place them in a diabolical deathtrap to finish them off in style.

Bad Luck your car breaking down, being caught in foul weather etc etc.

Fishing line would be uncomfortable or painful if it was tied around bare skin or tied so tightly that it cut into the flesh under her costume.

Batgirl academic, Cage, tells us that it wasn't tied tightly and she had the protection of her Batgirl outfit so while it wouldn't be painful Yvonne did a great job of making it appear to be painful.
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"The Ogg Couple, was it a trap or just bad luck? I have very little recall on the start of it, but doo have some old footage of her slipping on the caviar and being knocked unconscious."

Olga scooped a handful of caviar and threw it under Batgirl's feet causing her to slip and hit her head. It's not a wonderfully thought out or overly tricky trap buit it's a trap nonetheless.
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Reply #87 - 09/19/07 at 1:45am
 
I just like to say "trap".  Maybe I should just shut my trap.  Hmm.  It's as plain as the trap on your map that Cage is out to prove to everyone how goofy & dumb he can be, with his posts tonight.   Grin

"Batgirl academic, Cage, tells us that it wasn't tied tightly and she had the protection of her Batgirl outfit so while it wouldn't be painful Yvonne did a great job of making it appear to be painful."

Should I feel honored or offended?   Grin  I agree: she did a great job.  When did she not?
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Reply #88 - 09/19/07 at 1:53am
 
""Batgirl academic, Cage, tells us that it wasn't tied tightly and she had the protection of her Batgirl outfit so while it wouldn't be painful Yvonne did a great job of making it appear to be painful."

Should I feel honored or offended? "
I think this is one of those things that are open to creative interpretation. perhaps you could feel honoured and offended.
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Reply #89 - 09/19/07 at 2:17am
 
I'll try that, then.  Thank you... mutter grumble mutter... for the honor.    Lips Sealed UndecidedCheesy

BTW, 1 bat 1girl - I'm looking forward to your Origin post.   Cheesy
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Reply #90 - 09/20/07 at 12:21pm
 
If you check out the link called "Charlie's Secrets" on the "Omake" page of The Batgirl Bat-Trap Homepage! "Charlie" tells us some behind-the-scenes info about several of the Batgirl traps. I can say he is a good source  Smiley and that his "secrets" are not just speculation.
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Charlie, of course, is the real Batgirl academic.   Grin

Thanks, twof!  The Bat-Trap is the number one online source for Batgirl trap information!   Cheesy
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Reply #92 - 09/20/07 at 11:01pm
 
perilicious wrote on 09/19/07 at 1:25am:
"The Ogg Couple, was it a trap or just bad luck? I have very little recall on the start of it, but doo have some old footage of her slipping on the caviar and being knocked unconscious."

Olga scooped a handful of caviar and threw it under Batgirl's feet causing her to slip and hit her head. It's not a wonderfully thought out or overly tricky trap buit it's a trap nonetheless.


Was it really a trap or was it an reaction to an action. Batgirl is the envader to the lair an Olga just reacted to subdo the intruder.
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/20/07 at 3:11pm:
Charlie, of course, is the real Batgirl academic.    Cheesy


Charlie? whos Charlie, I thought it was Peedy Wink Grin Grin
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Hi,

    Charlie is Barbara Gordon's all knowing parrot.

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mrdeathtrap wrote on 09/21/07 at 12:13am:
Charlie is Barbara Gordon's all knowing parrot.

Dead straight, Mr. Deathtrap.
C'mon 1bat1girl, even I knew that!   Wink
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My favorite part of the whole... Trapped in Ffogg Place's Dungeon... scene, is just after Lord Ffogg and Lady Peasoup push Batman down the dungeon's stairs. And Batgirl instinctively steps forward to go to the aid of Batman... but is held back by her wrist shackles...Smiley
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Reply #97 - 09/21/07 at 9:42am
 
"Dead straight, Mr. Deathtrap.
C'mon 1bat1girl, even I knew that!"

This is a private joke. In another thread 1bat1girl mistakenly referred to charlie as Peedy.

"Was it really a trap or was it an reaction to an action. Batgirl is the envader to the lair an Olga just reacted to subdo the intruder."

The sabre dance was a deathtrap. Throwing caviar under her feet was how they rendered her helpless and prepared her for the trap. it's not very elaborate but it is a trap.

"My favorite part of the whole... Trapped in Ffogg Place's Dungeon... scene, is just after Lord Ffogg and Lady Peasoup push Batman down the dungeon's stairs. And Batgirl instinctively steps forward to go to the aid of Batman... but is held back by her wrist shackles... "
You have impeccable taste syntaur thanks for sharing.
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Commish wrote on 09/21/07 at 1:07am:
mrdeathtrap wrote on 09/21/07 at 12:13am:
Charlie is Barbara Gordon's all knowing parrot.

Dead straight, Mr. Deathtrap.
C'mon 1bat1girl, even I knew that!   Wink


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perilicious wrote on 09/21/07 at 9:42am:
"Dead straight, Mr. Deathtrap.
C'mon 1bat1girl, even I knew that!"

This is a private joke. In another thread 1bat1girl mistakenly referred to charlie as Peedy.

"Was it really a trap or was it an reaction to an action. Batgirl is the envader to the lair an Olga just reacted to subdo the intruder."

The sabre dance was a deathtrap. Throwing caviar under her feet was how they rendered her helpless and prepared her for the trap. it's not very elaborate but it is a trap.

"My favorite part of the whole... Trapped in Ffogg Place's Dungeon... scene, is just after Lord Ffogg and Lady Peasoup push Batman down the dungeon's stairs. And Batgirl instinctively steps forward to go to the aid of Batman... but is held back by her wrist shackles... "
You have impeccable taste syntaur thanks for sharing.


Yes very good picture.

As for the trap question, is a trap not premeditated?  thus be call a trap?






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Reply #100 - 09/22/07 at 4:02pm
 
http://m-w.com/dictionary/trap#

The above is the listing for "trap" at the Merriam-Webster dictionary website.  As with many words, there seem to be multiple accepted meanings,  some of which are broad , some more specific.

Cage got the Peedy reference, too, but didn't want to barge in.   Embarrassed  I kinda feel like I'm already coming too close to dominating a couple of Batgirl threads.   Grin Embarrassed Tongue

I should note, however, that I really like the name, "Peedy", and I've found myself calling Charlie by that name, just for fun.  Maybe we can establlish it as a real nickname for Charlie, if we can get enough people to use it.   Grin
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"As for the trap question, is a trap not premeditated?  thus be call a trap?"

I give up. I just can't explain it anymore than I already have. good luck in finding an answer. 
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perilicious wrote on 09/23/07 at 9:50am:
"As for the trap question, is a trap not premeditated?  thus be call a trap?"

I give up. I just can't explain it anymore than I already have. good luck in finding an answer. 



i still say the sabre dance is a trap. i read twof's website, the batgirl bat trap homepage, and he talked about how batgirl was knocked out for a long time after she slipped on the caviar olga threw at her feet, and during that time they talked about what to do to her, and how egghead probably wanted to just drown her in caviar (i think a missed opportunity was to make her walk the plank in to it) while olga said they should make her sabre dance for them. so it's premediated by olga thinking about it and then making her do it.
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Reply #103 - 09/24/07 at 8:49pm
 
I am neither pro nor con about the useage of the word trap. Just was looking for correct ways of dealing a trap. The saber dance,I could agree, it was thought out, as for the slip and fall? Time will tell.
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Here's how I call it: if it's listed as a trap at the Batgirl Bat-Trap Homepage!, it's a trap.  Let twof make the call.   Grin

Actually, I don't understand the controversy going on, here.   Huh  I mean, this isn't like we're debating the validity of the Batgirl Pilot, or anything really earth-shattering.   Grin

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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/24/07 at 10:06pm:
Here's how I call it: if it's listed as a trap at the Batgirl Bat-Trap Homepage!, it's a trap.  Let twof make the call.   Grin

Actually, I don't understand the controversy going on, here.   Huh  I mean, this isn't like we're debating the validity of the Batgirl Pilot, or anything really earth-shattering.   Grin

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Your right, enough has been said about the correct useage of the word trap. Its the command of proper word useage that is my downfall at times.

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egghead wrote on 09/18/07 at 8:15pm:
i didnt know that it was jello that they used. i knew it wasnt real caviar haha, but i always assumed that because it was gray that it was kitty litter lol. i thought they could have made it more realistic though, have her covered in caviar, since she sank all the way under. olga must have been desperate, since she wanted to eat the caviar i guess (why else would you rob caviar from a bank?) since she made egghead throw batgirl in there to drown. olga was a good villain.

the cats whiskers is also a good trap. i always imagined it was like fishing line, which is so thin and tight. i imagine taht would be very painful.


Its not kitty litter, its  silicon peletts, or sand used in drying flowers. I have some at home and comes in many colors, In a tank that big you would sink. The prop dept. would love this because it could be rebaged and resold.
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i didnt know that it was jello that they used. i knew it wasnt real caviar haha, but i always assumed that because it was gray that it was kitty litter lol. i thought they could have made it more realistic though, have her covered in caviar, since she sank all the way under. olga must have been desperate, since she wanted to eat the caviar i guess (why else would you rob caviar from a bank?) since she made egghead throw batgirl in there to drown. olga was a good villain.

the cats whiskers is also a good trap. i always imagined it was like fishing line, which is so thin and tight. i imagine taht would be very painful.


Its not kitty litter, its  silicon peletts, or sand used in drying flowers. I have some at home and comes in many colors, In a tank that big you would sink. The prop dept. would love this because it could be rebaged and resold.


the vat never seemed that deep though. when batgirl is sabre dancing, she's almost as tall as the vat. i doubt she would actually drown in it. she must have been sitting down in the stuff.
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Reply #108 - 09/24/07 at 11:09pm
 
Why Eggy, Its not easy trying to find a caviar dish that big. I've tried it a couple different ways an let me say, no words can describe it, like sliders and pudding all in one, with a lingering effect.

This is one that I do have, and it does look like she is sitting on her, well knees. She was probly still good a contorting her body to make use of the small space.
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Reply #109 - 09/24/07 at 11:18pm
 
The Charlie's Secrets page to which twof provided a link has an entry about the caviar dunk.  The entry discusses the depth of the tub and the composition of the "caviar".  Cage was wrong: it isn't diced jell-o.   Grin

We have twof's word that Charlie's information is good.  Charlie is an honest parrot.  He may talk about Barbara's secrets, but he'll give you the real lowdown.   Cheesy
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/24/07 at 11:18pm:
The Charlie's Secrets page to which twof provided a link has an entry about the caviar dunk.  The entry discusses the depth of the tub and the composition of the "caviar".  Cage was wrong: it isn't diced jell-o.   Grin

We have twof's word that Charlie's information is verified fact.  Charlie is an honest parrot.  He may talk about Barbara's secrets, but he'll give you the real lowdown.   Cheesy



so she went home and told charlie about her day of being forced to sabre dance and being dunked in caviar? thats a lucky parrot to get a first hand account.

twof says the vat was only three feet deep. kind of ruins the illusion.
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Charlie: Squawk! 

Barbara: Hush, Peedy, I've had a rough day.  I'm half danced to death.

C: You smell like fish eggs, Barbie!

B: I thought you couldn't talk.

C: I talk when I want to.  Boy, the secrets I could tell!

B: You tell anybody and you'll end up an extra in a Monty Python skit.

C: I'm a lumberjack!  Squawk.

Hmm.  I can never write a good Charlie scene.  I always think they seem funny until I write them.  So it's a good thing Charlie doesn't talk.  I think he revealed the secrets to twof using morse code, tapped out with his beak.


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been dunked in caviar, 1 bat 1 girl? or at least silicon pelets? lol

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"twof says the vat was only three feet deep. kind of ruins the illusion. "

But it was freezing cold. Batgirl called out to Batman that she was drowning and freezing. In extremely cold water or frozen fake caviar your muscles kind of seize up and stop working so Batgirl wouldn't have been able to support herself, and thus would have drowned in the shallow vat.
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 09/24/07 at 11:43pm:
Charlie: Squawk!  

Barbara: Hush, Peedy, I've had a rough day.  I'm half danced to death.

C: You smell like fish eggs, Barbie!

B: I thought you couldn't talk.

C: I talk when I want to.  Boy, the secrets I could tell!

B: You tell anybody and you'll end up an extra in a Monty Python skit.

C: I'm a lumberjack!  Squawk.

Hmm.  I can never write a good Charlie scene.  I always think they seem funny until I write them.  So it's a good thing Charlie doesn't talk.  I think he revealed the secrets to twof using morse code, tapped out with his beak.



Charlie:  Ever since she found out I could talk, Barbara's been telling me what she'll do to me if I tell anyone she's Batgirl!  She's said she'll throttle me, pluck me, and give me to Catwoman.  In other words, she's threatened me with allsorts...

...dolly mixtures, jelly babies, lemon drops...   Grin Roll Eyes
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Why Eggy, Its not easy trying to find a caviar dish that big. I've tried it a couple different ways an let me say, no words can describe it, like sliders and pudding all in one, with a lingering effect.


been dunked in caviar, 1 bat 1 girl? or at least silicon pelets? lol

yes, thanks to twof for the neat batgirl bat trap website.


Eggie I've only been dunk once, but not in caviar. Have eaten enough to say its a perfered taste.




The bat an I have roleplayed afew of the traps. The fan film was shot with a old vhs recorder and the suit was not that good. Once in a while we'll dig it out for some laugh's.
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[quote author=egghead link=1187398429/80#112 date=1190696799][quote author=1 bat 1girl link=1187398429/80#108 date=1190689758]Eggie I've only been dunk once, but not in caviar. Have eaten enough to say its a perfered taste.




The bat an I have roleplayed afew of the traps. The fan film was shot with a old vhs recorder and the suit was not that good. Once in a while we'll dig it out for some laugh's.


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I'll dig out the tape and give a play by play of what happened. Its been a few years.
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The kidnapping of Barbara Gordon by Penguin was unique because it was the only time that Batgirl was in danger even though she was not wearing her costume. The trap there was when she entered the elevator unsuspectingly, then all of a sudden Penguin and his men hooked her up with their umbrellas and pulled her up to the elevator ceiling. I like this one because of this.

The best Batgirl in costume solo "trap" for me was Catwoman's pattern cutter because it looked like she was in real danger there. Thanks to the world's oldest hippie (Alfred in disguise) for coming in the nick of time and saving our heroine from becoming a pinafore(?).

The best ensemble "trap" for the Terrific Trio would be the Siamese human knot. That had me in knots for a long while.

Too bad the series was cut short. There should have been more traps with Batman and Batgirl together or with Batgirl and Robin together.


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lol. should be interesting. has anyone else reenacted the batgirl bat traps before?
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We did it before utube. I knew I should of put them on dvd.  The tapes skip and fast forward themselves for a second but I will try my best to give some detail's.
They were more than just traps, we tried different simulations.
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They were more than just traps, we tried different simulations.



lol. looking foward to hearing about it. hope you get rescued from the caviar in time.
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did you ever find that tape 1 bat 1 girl??
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O yes I found it. It also was eaten and the waite is on for the bat to fix it. At this rate Ill have 2 more batgirl suits Grin

It was done for pure enjoyment reasons,plus we just did a haunted house with a dungen, new at the time batgirl suit, a couple of goules, assorted nite people and you have a cast for some Batgirl traps.
It was all done in one night with a few different traps and villians.
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It was done for pure enjoyment reasons,plus we just did a haunted house with a dungen, new at the time batgirl suit, a couple of goules, assorted nite people and you have a cast for some Batgirl traps.
It was all done in one night with a few different traps and villians.



neat, but its early for haloween lol. what traps did you do?
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Well some were made up or new ones if you wish. 
Foggs dungen.
Pattern cutter
Witch dance (copy of saber dance but with brooms)
Rack. ( tickle torture, with Joker & riddler)
Jokers rocket
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Foggs dungen.
Pattern cutter
Witch dance (copy of saber dance but with brooms)
Rack. ( tickle torture, with Joker & riddler)
Jokers rocket
Bat sleep.



lol. so you have a dungeon with a rocket, a pattern cutter, and a rack in it? neat haunted house. i'm guessing the others were batman fans because if they werent i guess explaining some of the traps would be hard.

how did your witch dance go?

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"Witch dance (copy of saber dance but with brooms)"
What was the theory behind the witch dance? Were they going to bludgeon you to death with the brooms instead of cutting with sabres.
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"Witch dance (copy of saber dance but with brooms)"
What was the theory behind the witch dance? Were they going to bludgeon you to death with the brooms instead of cutting with sabres.
Which one was your favourite?



yes, which ends of the brooms did they use? how did you do the witch dance? which trap was your favorite trap?
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The witch dance was like the sabre dance but they used brooms. This sounds cornny but here goes.
It was a short film. The witches have tied batgirl up and are going to throw her in their brew. The dance part was them pointing their brooms at me trying to make me back up into the pot of witches brew. It was about 30 seconds long with a bunch of getting poked with brooms and falling into a big tub. The cool part was the smoke machine, after falling in the pot all the smoke at the bottom kind of poofed out, spilled over. The bad part was no batman to the rescue. Back then we all had a good laugh. Just wish they had utube back then.
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"The witch dance was like the sabre dance but they used brooms. This sounds cornny but here goes.
It was a short film. The witches have tied batgirl up and are going to throw her in their brew. The dance part was them pointing their brooms at me trying to make me back up into the pot of witches brew. It was about 30 seconds long with a bunch of getting poked with brooms and falling into a big tub. The cool part was the smoke machine, after falling in the pot all the smoke at the bottom kind of poofed out, spilled over. The bad part was no batman to the rescue. Back then we all had a good laugh. Just wish they had utube back then. "

Lots of fun stuff sounds corny. Hell Batman wouldn't have happened if they said na too corny. ECHO your thoughts re utube.
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The alvino ray gun! To trap Batgirl into a one-dimensional cardboard must be the meanest trap of all!
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To awnser Egghead, what is batsleep?

Well it was two goons ( with just goon writen on the t-shirt) and one catwoman. After being put to sleep by catwomans sleep spray the two goons much like in catwiskers, bind me up. After coming too, catwoman suggested that bats sleep upside down. With the upper rigging still in place from the haunted house it was easy to shall I say, get draged by the ankles to an invert position. After a few seconds( seemed like forever) it was over.

This was not one of my favourites.  It was very hard on the ankles being draw'in up along the ground to hanging upside down. I would Not! suggest that anybody try it. It was a good idea for a trap, but without proper safeguards in place it could of had a turn for the worst.

That was the last one.  The next day the haunted house was put away for the next time.
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It's rotten that you got hurt and ruined a suit doing all of that, but the role playing sounds really cool.  Our Canadian Batgirl contingent is very imaginative and creative!  Way cool!   Cheesy
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"The batsuit was torn alomg the ?"...I shudder to think what the ? was...and to think you fell on your head!
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It was a short film. The witches have tied batgirl up and are going to throw her in their brew. The dance part was them pointing their brooms at me trying to make me back up into the pot of witches brew. It was about 30 seconds long with a bunch of getting poked with brooms and falling into a big tub. The cool part was the smoke machine, after falling in the pot all the smoke at the bottom kind of poofed out, spilled over. The bad part was no batman to the rescue. Back then we all had a good laugh. Just wish they had utube back then.



lol. did you actualy dance or just walk over and fall into the pot? too bad batman wasnt there to rescue you. sorry yo fell and hurt your head.

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Why now Eggie, you must of sent thoese nasty witches over, the boil boil your bits in oil chant, over and over again, I could almost scream. That little dance they made me do, the sweeping of the feet with their brooms, the poking with the handles.  Thank goodness for the antiwitches brew pill in my utilty belt or I would of been the main course.
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Batushka wrote on 10/10/07 at 12:35pm:
"The batsuit was torn alomg the ?"...I shudder to think what the ? was...and to think you fell on your head!


It could of been worst. If I didn't have my training in judo, kind of rolled on myshoulder, then a skid on my face to be more exact. In the end it was a little well, not a good place to hang out. Wink
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good thing it wasnt caviar. the antiwitch pillls wouldnt have helped then. lol. were the witches batman fans or did you have to explain the witch dance to them?
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Why now Eggie, you must of sent thoese nasty witches over, the boil boil your bits in oil chant, over and over again, I could almost scream. That little dance they made me do, the sweeping of the feet with their brooms, the poking with the handles.  Thank goodness for the antiwitches brew pill in my utilty belt or I would of been the main course.



good thing it wasnt caviar. the antiwitch pillls wouldnt have helped then. lol. were the witches batman fans or did you have to explain the witch dance to them?


On the contrair, the were huge fans, the only problems was a little over the edge in some way's.
Being draged by the ankles with the suit getting riped, It should of stoped there but some get caught up in the action.

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lol. good thing you didnt get hurt badley.

how did you do the pattern cutter trap? are you going to do a batgirl haunted house this haloween? have you ever tried caviar dunk (or silicon pellets lol or just the witches brew?
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egghead wrote on 10/10/07 at 10:10pm:
lol. good thing you didnt get hurt badley.

how did you do the pattern cutter trap? are you going to do a batgirl haunted house this haloween? have you ever tried caviar dunk (or silicon pellets lol or just the witches brew?


Just the witches brew, the tub is used for cornfest, Its quite big, about 3ft across and 2.5 down.
It was no problem getting into, however with you hands bound behind your back with the smoke machine going off, it was rather difficult.

No Im afraid there is no haunted house this year, Someone else is running it. Im pretty sure there will be no Batgirl, or Batman this year. ( the bat has the Keaton type suit) Can't get him into a 66, yet? Wink

The  pattern cutter, It was done,get ready for this, with a plank and two saw horses with a tarp over it. Necesity the mother of invention.  Almost the same, Batgirl walks in on catwoman( who has had a few already) get the knock out spray, passes out. The two goons grab me and yada yada, hands bound behind back feet tied together is placed, ha, dropped on the table. Catwoman uses the usual threats, tell me who batman is, no? A little slap on the side of the face,Well we'll just cut you in half. The saw is real( just without the blade) It sounded real on tape, only the goon pretend to cut the table and proceed to me. Al-la houdine my hands were free and rolled off the table just as goon was ready to gut me inhalf. The goon turns around and I'm holding the power cord, with that batgirl stance( arms on hips, feet apart, with the typical response," Now you evel no-gooder, your going to jail". Goon 2 grabs me with arms pinned at side, goon one runs over only to have one high kick( witch is why the other good pinned me, he kind of threw me up higher to make the kick look better)
Goon number one out cold . The other goon backs me on the table only to get a two footed kick(while lying on my back)  Catwoman runs away.
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That sounds like great fun 1bat 1girl!

I once recreated some bat traps with some friends of mine. i was robin and my (then) girlfriend was batgirl. we were placed in peril and captured by a friend of hers as catwoman.

we were all then rescued by my friend as batman!

holy nick of time and all that!

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I always thought that the best Batgirl Trap... though never produced in the show... would have been to have ether Batgirl kidnapped and hypnotized... or substituted in a Molly as Robin kinda way... then have Batgirl become Batbait... to snare Batman and Robin.
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I always thought that the best Batgirl Trap... though never produced in the show... would have been to have ether Batgirl kidnapped and hypnotized... or substituted in a Molly as Robin kinda way... then have Batgirl become Batbait... to snare Batman and Robin.


OO I like that. If and when my new batgirl suit is finished (sent) May have to ask the bat to try this.
Maybe put it on utube. Do you have more on this idea?
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Why now Eggie, you have not asked about the rack. Or does it scare you Grin
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"The  pattern cutter, It was done,get ready for this, with a plank and two saw horses with a tarp over it. Necesity the mother of invention.  Almost the same, Batgirl walks in on catwoman( who has had a few already) get the knock out spray, passes out. The two goons grab me and yada yada, hands bound behind back feet tied together is placed, ha, dropped on the table. Catwoman uses the usual threats, tell me who batman is, no? A little slap on the side of the face,Well we'll just cut you in half. The saw is real( just without the blade) It sounded real on tape, only the goon pretend to cut the table and proceed to me. Al-la houdine my hands were free and rolled off the table just as goon was ready to gut me inhalf. The goon turns around and I'm holding the power cord, with that batgirl stance( arms on hips, feet apart, with the typical response," Now you evel no-gooder, your going to jail". Goon 2 grabs me with arms pinned at side, goon one runs over only to have one high kick( witch is why the other good pinned me, he kind of threw me up higher to make the kick look better)
Goon number one out cold . The other goon backs me on the table only to get a two footed kick(while lying on my back)  Catwoman runs away. "

Sounds fantastic I like Catwoman slapping her rival and trying to discover Batman's identity and no falling involved.

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One of the reasons I enjoyed the pattern cutter so much was seeing Catwoman lauding it over Batgirl. see below

Batgirl gagged and placed on the pattern cutter.
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The banter that took place before Batgirl was gagged was pretty cool too. It seemed like when Batgirl won the banter Catwoman changed the rules so she couldn't be upstaged again. that's almost akin to a backyard buddy throwing a tantrum and taking his ball home.
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The whole pattern cutter episode seems to have been structured around the trap, IMO.  Is that the trap scenario which got the most airtime in the course of an episode?  Hmm, I've never thought about timing the different traps, to see which one is longest.  The Fogg dungeon was a long-lasting one....   Undecided
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long in screen time or long in real time?
The Fogg dungeon scene probably was the longest but we have no way to measure the interval of Batgirl's imprisonment

Dr Minerva's trap only took a few moments to flatten the terrifc trio but how long did it take before they were restored? The same could be said about Shame's fear gas trap.

The rolling rack sounds very impressive 1 bat 1girl
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Length in terms of screen time, yes.  I hadn't considered the Cassandra Alvino flattening ray, perhaps because the flattened part of the trap was played by inanimate stunt doubles.  Hmm.  The flattening scene is way nice, though....
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When does the Patter Cutter trap begin? Is it when Batgirl gets abducted or when she is stapped on to the pattern cutter?
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Well, I would say it starts when she's taken captive.  But by that logic, the saber dance and caviar dunk should be glommed together as one single "trap".  So the better answer is probably that it begins when she's actually set down on the conveyor belt.  Hmm.  No, it still feels like the whole gagging scene was part of the trap too, to me.  Hmm, hmm.   Huh
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 11/21/07 at 2:31am:
Well, I would say it starts when she's taken captive.  But by that logic, the saber dance and caviar dunk should be glommed together as one single "trap".  So the better answer is probably that it begins when she's actually set down on the conveyor belt.  Hmm.  No, it still feels like the whole gagging scene was part of the trap too, to me.  Hmm, hmm.   Huh


I've always thought that the capture is the first stage of the trap given that if the hero/ heroine isn't captured the trap can't be activated. The problem arises when the trap isn't activated immediately after the capture eg Pattern Cutter. Using this logic the Fogg dungeon trap would begin when Lady Prudence uses the paralzing gas to capture Batgirl. For the Alvino ray gun, the capture is the trap.
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 11/21/07 at 2:31am:
Well, I would say it starts when she's taken captive.  But by that logic, the saber dance and caviar dunk should be glommed together as one single "trap".  So the better answer is probably that it begins when she's actually set down on the conveyor belt.  Hmm.  No, it still feels like the whole gagging scene was part of the trap too, to me.  Hmm, hmm.   Huh


I've always thought that the capture is the first stage of the trap given that if the hero/ heroine isn't captured the trap can't be activated. The problem arises when the trap isn't activated immediately after the capture eg Pattern Cutter. Using this logic the Fogg dungeon trap would begin when Lady Prudence uses the paralzing gas to capture Batgirl. For the Alvino ray gun, the capture is the trap.



The Pattern cutter trap, I think is when Catwomen went into the models dressing room. All she had to do was weight for Batgirl to enter, as B&R were bound by morals not to enter.
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That's basically how I think of different traps, yes: that they begin when the hero(ine) is subdued by the villain(ess).  I have tended to think of the paralysing gas as the start of the Fogg dungeon trap.  The confusion, for me, at least, comes about when one period of captivity involves more than one distinct trap, as with the saber dance and caviar dunk.  How to work that one out?  Were there any other instances in which the horoes were subjected to multiple traps in one period of captivity?   Huh
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 11/21/07 at 2:31am:
Well, I would say it starts when she's taken captive.  But by that logic, the saber dance and caviar dunk should be glommed together as one single "trap".  So the better answer is probably that it begins when she's actually set down on the conveyor belt.  Hmm.  No, it still feels like the whole gagging scene was part of the trap too, to me.  Hmm, hmm.   Huh


I've always thought that the capture is the first stage of the trap given that if the hero/ heroine isn't captured the trap can't be activated. The problem arises when the trap isn't activated immediately after the capture eg Pattern Cutter. Using this logic the Fogg dungeon trap would begin when Lady Prudence uses the paralzing gas to capture Batgirl. For the Alvino ray gun, the capture is the trap.



The Pattern cutter trap, I think is when Catwomen went into the models dressing room. All she had to do was weight for Batgirl to enter, as B&R were bound by morals not to enter.
Come out come out were ever you are.  Can only be in one place at one time Batman perrrrfect trap.


Catwoman was setting an ambush when she entered but you can't start timing the trap until you have a victim. therefore, the capture/subdual of Batgirl should be the starting point.

"The confusion, for me, at least, comes about when one period of captivity involves more than one distinct trap, as with the saber dance and caviar dunk.  How to work that one out?  Were there any other instances in which the horoes were subjected to multiple traps in one period of captivity?"

The Sabre Dance/ Caviar Dunk was unique in that Batgirl didn't escape the trap and regain her freedom. While Batman and Robin effectively saved Batgirl from that peril Batgirl still remained Egghead and Olga's prisoner so lumping the two traps together makes sense if you agree that the endpoint for a trap is when the hero (ine) escapes the trap and is no longer a victim?

re Joker's rocket trap. Batgirl defeated the trap but was still Joker's prisoner inside the UFO. I can't remember how that trap ended.
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The captivity in the Joker's Flying Saucer ended when the saucer was mysteriously forced to return to its starting point, where a bat-fight ensued.  I think Batgirl did one of her disappearing acts in the course of the fight.  That's another area where it gets tricky for me.  I find it easy enough to think that captivity sequences leading up to the trap are part of that trap, but I have trouble accepting captivity which follows an unsuccessful trap as still being part of that trap.  Hmm.  We'll end up quibbling about the definition of "trap" again, if we're not careful, here....   Grin
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 11/22/07 at 12:49am:
The captivity in the Joker's Flying Saucer ended when the saucer was mysteriously forced to return to its starting point, where a bat-fight ensued.  I think Batgirl did one of her disappearing acts in the course of the fight.  That's another area where it gets tricky for me.  I find it easy enough to think that captivity sequences leading up to the trap are part of that trap, but I have trouble accepting captivity which follows an unsuccessful trap as still being part of that trap.  Hmm.  We'll end up quibbling about the definition of "trap" again, if we're not careful, here....   Grin


Yeah it's a bit of a problem, not to mention a weak trap and we don't even see the capture so it's hard to figure out the length of the trap anyhow. Disqualify it! maybe not but I doubt it's the longest trap that ever aired. Joker needed to put her in another trap once his first one flopped. Damn 3rd season hijinks.
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That_weirdo_Cage wrote on 11/22/07 at 12:49am:
The captivity in the Joker's Flying Saucer ended when the saucer was mysteriously forced to return to its starting point, where a bat-fight ensued.  I think Batgirl did one of her disappearing acts in the course of the fight.  That's another area where it gets tricky for me.  I find it easy enough to think that captivity sequences leading up to the trap are part of that trap, but I have trouble accepting captivity which follows an unsuccessful trap as still being part of that trap.  Hmm.  We'll end up quibbling about the definition of "trap" again, if we're not careful, here....   Grin


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Uh... are we marching?   Huh  Let's not fight, anyways.

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Forget it!   That's the look I had a day ago when I tried on my new cowl.  Embarrassed Grin
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Forget it!   That's the look I had a day ago when I tried on my new cowl.  Embarrassed Grin


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Forget it!   That's the look I had a day ago when I tried on my new cowl.  Embarrassed Grin



Were you dazzled by the effect of the new cowl, or was it too tight or something?   Huh

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Hi all,

Been awhile since my last post but I love this topic.  I can't decide between my favorites
of Whiskers or the Pattern cutter....please don't make me decide!

But what gets me about the series is that Batgirl was never in the classic damsel trap
of being tied to the railroad tracks.  This would have been a perfect fit for the Shame/Old West
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The human knot was the best>>>(And, who wouldn't have loved to be in that knot????)
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GothamSocialite wrote on 11/25/07 at 1:31pm:
Hi all,

Been awhile since my last post but I love this topic.  I can't decide between my favorites
of Whiskers or the Pattern cutter....please don't make me decide!

But what gets me about the series is that Batgirl was never in the classic damsel trap
of being tied to the railroad tracks.  This would have been a perfect fit for the Shame/Old West
episodes.  I tend to think that they were running under on their budget or something to do this.


Batgirl tied to the railroad tracks would have been better than just being taken prisoner until the fear gas wore off and she escaped, but in the Bat world it's not a grandiose trap befitting of a dastardly arch criminal. If they could have put a campy spin on it then maybe it would have worked.

I'm like you I adore both the Cats whiskers and the Pattern Cutter traps equally.
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what do you mean by that 1 bat 1 girl? another trap tape?


Close, just finishing up the storyline as we post.  Tape, well that was 15 yrs ago plus I have no boots yet for my new suit (augh)
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Ok Black Canary... not Batgirl... but:)
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Omg  did she get traped in the pattern cutter? Grin
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It looks like they sent her through the pattern cutter sideways, then someone stole her face and fingers!   Shocked Shocked  And then they did something to her fishnets, because they've become embedded in her epidermis, as far as I can tell....

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Er  no... It is from a Fan Fiction drawing from the internet.
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I always thought it a shame that the only trap Robin and Batgirl shared with just the two of them was when Olga and Egghead had them prisoner; threatening to feed them to the Neosaurus.

I would've enjoyed seeing them helpless in Catwoman or King Tut's clutches.



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Batgirl and Robin strung up by their wrists over King Tut's crocidile pit... as a drugged Batman... Batslave... saws away at the rope. As Tut and his gang watch with glee...

Or... In his twisted mind of all things Eygtian Ancient... King Tut goes off the deep end and sees Batgirl as the fullfillment of a ancient offering to a Ancient Eygtian Goddess of Night Creatures. Entombing her in a specially built subterranian tomb/temple to the Goddess. And in the process entombs Robin as well to be the Goddess' slave in the Afterlife. This was done in the old Superman television show with Lois Lane and Jimmy Olson... but relating Batgirl and Robin to mythical Ancient Eygtian beings would be neat:) Batgirl drugged and mummified alive... well wrapped up like a mummy anyway being lowered into a mummycase that would be decorated like a ancient Eygtian mummy case... but would have Batgirl's costume design incorperated in the decor... in a ceremonial manner... With the ceremony going all the way to where the heavy stone lid would almost be lowered on top of the container in which she lays... before Batman would burst in and break things up. Freeing Robin from his shackles to help in the final Bat Fight of the show. During the final fight we would also somehow see the mummy wrapped Batgirl in the case... and we would see a tiny blade appear from within her wrappings... as if she was cutting her way out... then the gold case lid would fly open and Batgirl would climb out of her would be tomb and join in the fight:)
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Speaking a Robin and Batgirl...
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Syntaur, a most interesting story. The younger of the trio, seem to have  no fear, but perhaps with that come's carelessness.  I like the story so far, will more come?  Can almost picture it in my mind and looks good, almost the forgotten trap.
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Thanks... I was thinking it would be neat to have Batgirl all tightly wrapped up like a Mummy... arms bent to have her forearms cross over her chest in a Eygptian style... Completely wrapped from head to toe with the exception of her exposed eyes. But then having her cape hanging out the back.

No further story... but I am tempted in making a custom figure of it... a mummy wrapped Batgirl as described as above... inside a to scale(custom based on Mattel Barbie) mummy case... which would fit her perfectly... and which outside would be painted as if it was silver, gold and jewel... Ancient Eygtian in in style... but Batgirl in reference. One hand on the mummy case lid holding a batarang.

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Reply #183 - 12/06/07 at 1:00am
 
And although not wrapped up like a mummy...Smiley
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Reply #184 - 12/06/07 at 7:54pm
 
Can someone help my frail mind, I know the Jokers rocket but how did the trap start? Been driving me bats for a long time.  Just how did Batgirl get  in it?
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Reply #185 - 12/06/07 at 8:02pm
 
Hey, syntaur - I like the action figure theatre!  I'd like to see those Simpsons characters doing the trapping.   Grin  Ack!  Mr. Smithers has mummified Dynagirl!  (Is that Dynagirl?)

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Can someone help my frail mind, I know the Jokers rocket but how did the trap start? Been driving me bats for a long time.  Just how did Batgirl get  in it?


Batgirl's entry into Joker's hideout is never shown, in that episode.  We first see her after she's already been caught by Joker's goons, and Joker tells us she was captured while sneaking in through a window, I think.  Then he decides to send her to a "window in the sky", by way of strapping her to the rocket.  It's one of those traps which is really cool in the middle, but kind of weak at the beginning and end.
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Reply #186 - 12/07/07 at 4:12pm
 
I think the line by the Goons was "look who we found snooping around" or something like that.   I agree, pretty weak.   A weak escape that she had once was from the Riddler's steam room.  The goons just said she escaped and that was that.
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Reply #187 - 12/07/07 at 4:16pm
 
After the Rocket trap, she was carried into the  flying saucer.  She wasn't restrained or anything while in the saucer, so why didn't she just get up and beat the #?#!! Pow !!!! #Zowie!!!! out of them.  Alfred
could have pitched in too.
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Reply #188 - 12/08/07 at 4:49am
 
GothamSocialite wrote on 12/07/07 at 4:16pm:
After the Rocket trap, she was carried into the  flying saucer.  She wasn't restrained or anything while in the saucer, so why didn't she just get up and beat the #?#!! Pow !!!! #Zowie!!!! out of them.  Alfred
could have pitched in too.


Yeah you'd think they'd tie her up at the very least. Batgirl might not have known how to fly the saucer so waiting for it to land before Powing them isn't a bad idea.
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Reply #189 - 12/13/07 at 1:22am
 
Although... It may have been neat if at the time when Batgirl found herself in the saucer... if she would have remembered some technical information she had looked up as Librarian Barbara Gordon for the person that built the saucer. Which at the time, she would have had no idea what the information was going to be used for.... Only that the information was odd in the everyday information requests at the Gotham Public Library:)
Information that she would have used to be able to fly it.

Also it would have made a clever storyline addition how she explained it... or sidestepped answering it... when asked how she knew how to fly it afterwards:)

All the information in the world is at your Public Library... if you know where to look for it... And Barbara Gordon is a outstanding Librarian:)
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Reply #190 - 12/13/07 at 1:39am
 
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Also it would have made a clever storyline addition how she explained it... or sidestepped answering it... when asked how she knew how to fly it afterwards


She could just use her favorite dodge from the Lundinium episodes: "I'll explain later."  She says that in each one of them, and, of course, never gets to explain.   Undecided
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Reply #191 - 12/13/07 at 2:23am
 
Yeah... And remember that at the time this show was produced, that personal computers might have well been on the pages of Buck Rogers. So the information gathering ability of a Public Library Librarian was more important than ever.

Somewhat related... Remember that old Chuck Heston movie... Soylent Green??? In it, Heston's character has a elderly roommate played by Edward G. Robinson. Robinson's character's main purpose being to pour over large books that he has in his collection, or to go to a secretive library run by elderly characters, to get the information Heston asks him for.

If you were to remake Soylent Green today... you could completely cut out Robinson's character, by merely giving Heston a laptop computer and access to the internet. Though the laptop would've have given Heston the companionship like Robinson's character did when he returned to his lonely small apartment at night....... No wait... I forgot the chatrooms and message boards:)

Anyway again... Batgirl hanging out at Ffogg Place:)
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Reply #192 - 12/13/07 at 2:30am
 
GothamSocialite wrote on 12/07/07 at 4:16pm:
After the Rocket trap, she was carried into the  flying saucer.  She wasn't restrained or anything while in the saucer, so why didn't she just get up and beat the #?#!! Pow !!!! #Zowie!!!! out of them.  Alfred
could have pitched in too.


alfred was to old to fight lol.

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Reply #193 - 12/15/07 at 5:17pm
 
egghead wrote on 12/13/07 at 2:30am:
GothamSocialite wrote on 12/07/07 at 4:16pm:
After the Rocket trap, she was carried into the  flying saucer.  She wasn't restrained or anything while in the saucer, so why didn't she just get up and beat the #?#!! Pow !!!! #Zowie!!!! out of them.  Alfred
could have pitched in too.


alfred was to old to fight lol.



I don,t know, he did alright in Enter Batgirl exit Penguin. Pretty good jabs for an older man.
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Reply #194 - 12/16/07 at 1:51am
 
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I don,t know, he did alright in Enter Batgirl exit Penguin. Pretty good jabs for an older man.

Alfred also joined in another Bat fight when Robin was in a cooking pot, but his involvement was marginal just clobbering unsuspecting thugs from behind.
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Reply #195 - 12/16/07 at 2:51pm
 
Don't forget when he donned Bantman's suit  once or twice.   He did it in one episode
when he saved Robin from getting smushed by the comic book machine.  Could you
imagine it Joker or one of the robots hit him as hard as Batman or Robin got hit.


*BAM!!!!"  Lights out!  Cheesy    I am just laughing at what public feedback there would be
to see 90 yr old man  on tv getting beat up.
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Reply #196 - 12/16/07 at 9:29pm
 
Syntaur, Ffloggs place is one, well tied with catwiskers as my favourite traps, never get tired of the caps. Keep them up, love em
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Reply #197 - 03/03/08 at 12:31pm
 
syntaur wrote on 12/05/07 at 8:05pm:
"Given little choice... Wonder Woman surrenders herself to her enemy... Dr. Phillips... dooming herself to join Black Canary for eternity as a trophy in his Trophy Room......"

Er sorry...Smiley


I always thought a better continuation of the Dungeon episode would have been, Fogg, instead of throwing stale lethal fog pellets, instead would have thrown permanent paralyzing fog pellets.  Then, once permanently paralyzed, Batgirl could have been put in a display case in the Cricket Pavillion.  Of course at the end Batman would have freed her with Permanent Paralyzing Fog Pellet Bat Reverser Spray.
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Reply #198 - 03/04/08 at 3:56am
 
Halos you diabolical fiend! welcome aboard I hope to see more of your posts in the future.  Great idea.
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