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Opinion on the shade of green for the Green Hornet
11/22/09 at 8:53am
 
I have seen the masks and hat offered by CY Productions, and though they may be screen accurate, what would look bestin person? Seems the shade of green changes quite a bit when filmed, depending on the light of course. Sometimes the mask and hat look like a dark olive green, more like the coat, as opposed to the brighter green seen in the photos on the CY website. I tend to think a GH costume would look better if the mask and hat were the darker green for live appearances. I think it's what an audience would expect. Opinions please.
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Re: Opinion on the shade of green for the Green Hornet
Reply #1 - 11/22/09 at 10:38pm
 
The brim is too large on that hat.
Color need to be more olive
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Reply #2 - 11/22/09 at 10:51pm
 
The hat used onscreen is more of a Trilby than a standard fedora- 2" brim. Is the real color more olive or like hunter green? The pilot script referenced a desire to use a dark/black green shade that could be called "midnight green". Hunter Green is commonly available in paint and fabric dye, and quite dark (towards the blue tint).

In my avatar pic I'm wearing Etruscan Snood's GH outfit, which is olive green, w/ a CY mask.
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Reply #3 - 11/25/09 at 4:07am
 
I just got a CY mask and the color in person looks close. It looks like it lightens up under flash photography. (On a sidenote I also noticed this is the version of the mask that was used at the start of the season. The later mask had a bit more point in the nose and a nice little cutaway where the nose meets the mask.) I really like mine.

The Evolution mask looks closer to the one used later in the season. I am almost sure the hornet sticker was gold foil towards the end too.
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Reply #4 - 11/25/09 at 9:24am
 
I wouldn't recommend olive green for either coat or hat.  It tends to photograph leaning towards the brown scale of green too often and rarely looks like any still from the show.  A deep hunter green would be more ideal from the score of reference pictures and screen captures I've sifted through.
  The CY picture is way closer to how the colors looked in natural sunlight which is a pretty rare thing to find in the older on set pictures and promotional stills which often had colored gels or simply discolored over time and in many reproductions of other reproductions with no color correction.  And trying to find a suiting fabric or hat felt in the exact color as an original or pre existing batch of color is virtually impossible.  So I would say kudos to the CY suit for the basic palette.  The brim looks a bit wide but it's harder to tell at this angle and on such a skinny headed mannequin.

BTW, I did change the brightness on the CY picture to compensate for the over exposed picture.
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Reply #5 - 11/25/09 at 2:16pm
 
Scott, your Green Hornet suit looks real good to me.
Where did you get yours?

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Reply #6 - 11/25/09 at 4:49pm
 
Thats pretty much the color of my CY mask Scott. The picture with the gum is awesome! It lightens up under flash a few shades.
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Reply #7 - 11/25/09 at 9:06pm
 
DarkKnight69 wrote on 11/25/09 at 2:16pm:
Scott, your Green Hornet suit looks real good to me.
Where did you get yours?

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Vickie and I pieced mine together back in 2006.  I found the hat off the rack at Baron's and had them change the band to a thicker one.  I know the brim is too big and I'll eventually correct that I hope.

The coat was a find at a Burlington coat factory outlet.  Vickie did some modifications to it to make it closer to the Hornet style.  The shade of green is a little too vivid but works well with the ensemble for now.  I had a swatch of green suit material I had sourced out after looking all around the Los Angeles area and the coat ended up being close enough for the short notice.

The mask is a CY one painted in Hunter Green.  I had to dremel the side ear pieces so that the mask would rest on my ears properly and rest against my face (I guess my ears set up higher to my nose than Van's).  That required me to repaint the mask myself although Clint had sent it too me in the same color prior to the dremel work that I did.

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Here it is this past summer when I loaned it to a friend to join us at SDCC:

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Reply #8 - 11/25/09 at 11:33pm
 
Very cool, I love it . I was also looking at the comic style which is pretty neat as well. Your jacket is a lighter color then the original I think, based on the pics supplied, but I actually think your looks better, the Fedoras were originally made to match a mans jacket so in that way you are correct. I dont know that I would change it except I know you are a perfectionist...lol. Question, in some of the comic versions I noticed his pants were also green, any opinions?

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Re: Opinion on the shade of green for the Green Hornet
Reply #9 - 11/26/09 at 6:53pm
 
The color scheme was originally devised for promotional art for the radio show- only the hornet symbol on the mask itself (which was black) was green. The coat was camel (and an overcoat style, not the Chesterfield dress coat of the TV show), with a camel or silver felt hat.

This scheme appeared on early Golden Age comic covers, with first the hat, then the mask, coat, and finally the (originally black or brown) suit underneath all becoming green to simplify the comics printing process. If you want a clearly comic book look, an all matched green outfit achieves that. If you want to look like the character would in the real world, go with realistic clothes in traditional colors and the signature mask. On radio, it was the mask, not the outfit that indicated the Hornet's identity- people had to get a look at his face to realize who they were dealing with.
Van's suit was black for TV.

The NOW comics series put Paul Reid in a green trench coat, but off-the-shelf you're likely to find olive green the only green in men's coats.

It all depends on whether you see the Green Hornet as a superhero who wears a distinctive costume, or an undercover vigilante trying to blend in with the underworld while protecting his real identity.
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Re: Opinion on the shade of green for the Green Hornet
Reply #10 - 11/26/09 at 9:16pm
 
Too true. One thing I regret with the 60's TV show is that they ended up going for a somewhat more comic book influenced look for the Hornet with the green hat, coat and mask. I think I would have preferred something more like what was used for the two test episodes of the TV show I've seen than what ended up being used in the show itself. It may have also influenced Seth Rogen to go with an all green motif as well  Huh

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Reply #11 - 11/27/09 at 5:39am
 
I may be showing my superhero geek side but I think the Van Williams Hornet was perfect. Even though I actually like Rogen's look so far, with all the technology and modern advances I think it's a step back. Just my opinion..... That vest is a nice tip of the hat though!

P.S. Where'd you get that Sting Scott? Very cool!
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Reply #12 - 11/27/09 at 9:43am
 
Bill The Bay summed it up well. Thanls for putting it in perspective. I think I am going to go initially with the real world GH color scheme, more of an olive green all around. Since I already have the hat, the mask, a black suit... all that's left is the coat, which I will hunt for at my local Salvation Army(s). Eventually I will go for the screen accurate look. Certainly easier than putting together the Bat suit.
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Reply #13 - 11/27/09 at 10:00am
 
Make that Bill the Bat, not Bill the Bay. Sorry Bill.
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Re: Opinion on the shade of green for the Green Hornet
Reply #14 - 11/27/09 at 1:31pm
 
etrigan wrote on 11/27/09 at 5:39am:
Where'd you get that Sting Scott? Very cool! 

I built it about two days before this year's comic con.  I used various PVC pieces for some of the main body and ends of the sting.  The telescoping bits were from the insides of a toy light saber with a tapered artist's paint brush used for the last extension.  The round end of the sting is a cabinet doorknob.  Trust me when I say it mainly looks good when seen an photographed ta distance.  It would never hold up if it was in your hands as a quality prop.  It fit the bill for the moment.  Hopefully, I'll get an upgrade in the distant future.  Who knows?

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