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Re: Things you didn't notice or remember until seeing the DVDs

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:52 am
by Kite Kid
Kite Kid wrote:
Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:12 pm
In "Penguin's Clean Sweep," we see Penguin's henchmen Dustbag and Pushbroom throughout the episode, but when he arrives at Gotham City National Bank right before the batfight, he suddenly has three more. At first, I thought they were wearing the black shirts that say "Henchman" -- recycled from "Enter Batgirl, Exit Penguin" -- but they're not. Their shirts show that all three have names: Washrag, Wetmop and Soap.
I posted the above before I had my cataract surgery and I realize now that I misread one of the extra henchmen's names: It's Washpan, not Washrag. Whoops! :D

Re: Things you didn't notice or remember until seeing the DVDs

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:53 pm
by Batfanman
If you cue up E1 to +7:00 and play until the scene transitions at +7:09, there's a big drop in color brilliance that lasts for the remainder of the scene as they depart the Cmsr's office. This is on the WB D1 fix DVD. Makes me think that the scene was edited in from a lesser source.

Curious if anyone else notices this - especially on the Blu-Rays (which I don't have.) Top photo is before; bottom is after scene transition.

Re: Things you didn't notice or remember until seeing the DVDs

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:43 am
by Jim Akin
In "He Meets His Match, The Grisly Ghoul," writer Lorenzo Semple Jr. serves up one of his favorite motifs—Batman spreading his cape and throwing a bat shadow against a wall to "terrify" criminals. In this instance, however, the move is undermined by a continuity glitch.

It's in a scene at the Woodrow Roosevelt High gym, where Joker is gloating about a photo his Bad Pennies have just snapped of the basketball team with exam answers from his rigged vending machine. Batman shouts offscreen, and the camera cuts to him up on a catwalk, where he drops his spread cape. When the camera cuts back to Joker and his goons we see the bat shadow for the first time, even though Batman is no longer casting it. The crooks are clearly startled when they hear Batman's voice, but they never even acknowledge the shadow, so the whole effort kind of fIops.

Incidentally, in some other episodes ("Zelda the Great," "The Penguin Goes Straight," etc.) Adam West (or, more likely, a stand-in) clearly "performs" the bat shadow and makes it move, but this one is motionless and looks to be generated by a lighting effect—what we used to call a "gobo" when I was on high school stage crew. (The Batsignal works on the same principle—or would if it were possible in the real world to focus a lamp on clouds.) I'm pretty sure we see the same motionless shadow again, used to much better dramatic effect, in "Give 'Em The Axe."

Re: Things you didn't notice or remember until seeing the DVDs

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:46 am
by Ben Bentley
Batfanman wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:53 pm
If you cue up E1 to +7:00 and play until the scene transitions at +7:09, there's a big drop in color brilliance that lasts for the remainder of the scene as they depart the Cmsr's office. This is on the WB D1 fix DVD. Makes me think that the scene was edited in from a lesser source.

Curious if anyone else notices this - especially on the Blu-Rays (which I don't have.) Top photo is before; bottom is after scene transition.
So what we're seeing here is an example of when they had to cut away to a 16mm print as opposed to the 35mm source that is used predominantly for the cleaned up DVD/Blu Ray realease. Why do they switch sources sudddenly mid-scene? Well, usually this will be because of an issue on the print that is not easily rectifiable if, at all.

Re: Things you didn't notice or remember until seeing the DVDs

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:26 pm
by Bat Mitch
I've noticed this kind of color degradation in older shows and movies whenever some kind of optical effect was overlayed on top of the footage (e.g. opening or closing credits).
In this scene, there is an expanding bat that's overlayed during the transition. Perhaps it's a side effect of the optical process to insert the bat overlay.

Re: Things you didn't notice or remember until seeing the DVDs

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:22 pm
by Batfanman
Ben Bentley wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:46 am
Batfanman wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:53 pm
If you cue up E1 to +7:00 and play until the scene transitions at +7:09, there's a big drop in color brilliance that lasts for the remainder of the scene as they depart the Cmsr's office. This is on the WB D1 fix DVD. Makes me think that the scene was edited in from a lesser source.

Curious if anyone else notices this - especially on the Blu-Rays (which I don't have.) Top photo is before; bottom is after scene transition.
So what we're seeing here is an example of when they had to cut away to a 16mm print as opposed to the 35mm source that is used predominantly for the cleaned up DVD/Blu Ray realease. Why do they switch sources sudddenly mid-scene? Well, usually this will be because of an issue on the print that is not easily rectifiable if, at all.
Thanks, Ben - great insight.