Question about Batcave layout (tunnel)

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Question about Batcave layout (tunnel)

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Hi everyone, I'm new here (but long time reader) and very happy to be part of the group!

I am currently working on my own version of a 1:50 model of the Batcave and the Wayne Manor Study, and while looking at various blueprints, I found out a mysterious tunnel in the Batcave that I don't think we ever saw in the show. I have the series on Blu-ray, but there is so many episodes, I decided to ask here first as i know you guys are the best!

Do any of you knows if it was ever shown in the show, and if yes, what was it used for?

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Welcome to our board! Great to have you with us!

I'm trying to wrap my head around the orientation you're using on your overview in order to answer your question. I think your postioning of the Blue Grotto Exit is off, I feel like the tunnel you are trying to identify is actually one of two fake tunnels that were added to the rear cave wall for the movie and utilize false-perspective to create the effect. Check out the screen cap from the movie below, this is one of the clearest views we get of both tunnels (click on the image to enlarge).
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This shot from the Batcave fight-scene in the movie shows us quite clearly where the floor ends and the false-perspective tunnel begins:
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Thank you!

So I guess it's only a 2nd tunnel. I have updated my map, based on the pictures you posted. This is not the final version, but I think it's slightly better now!

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I never noticed those tunnels!! Mind blown.
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rsaffle wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:33 pm I never noticed those tunnels!! Mind blown.
Me either, can’t believe I never noticed that!
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The diagram looks really cool so far but depending on what degree of scale/accuracy you're aiming for, these measurements may be of interest:

Batmobile Turning Circle (painted on floor):
11'0" radius

Bat-Pole landing area:
7'6" wide X 7'4" (Bat-Pole steps - 1'3" each, two steps total)

Subterreanan Blue Grotto Exit (gate):
8'0"
greatlakes6 wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:23 pm
rsaffle wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:33 pm I never noticed those tunnels!! Mind blown.
Me either, can’t believe I never noticed that!
So in fairness, they don't appear until the movie budget allows for upgrades to the Batcave set which included most notably adding the rear cave wall behind the Atomic Pile. In Season One, it was simply a hanging black cloth backdrop.

Season One:
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Do we ever get an idea of the length of the Batpoles? The one episode where Alfred has the Joker trapped on the one Batpole gives the impression that they are much taller than I expected. Mainly because of the length of time Alfred lets the Joker drop before bringing him back up. I know its "Batman physics", but...
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my version of the Batcave done with 3dsmax four eyars ago,

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In "I'll Be A Mummy's Uncle" King Tut found the batcave thru that left tunnel, so there was some physical space back there.
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You can't see the pics real clear but here is a link to a copy of the original blueprints.


https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... blueprints
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Interesting shot I found labeled "Break time on the set"
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rsaffle wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:57 pm You can't see the pics real clear but here is a link to a copy of the original blueprints.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... blueprints
This is not official. It was made by Mark Bennett, a TV series enthusiast who made many of these maps and layouts based on TV series. I have a Hi Res of this, and while he does have some good idea of the layout, he made human mistakes! I guess he was doing these map based on the live broadcast (or some recordings?), so it was very well made based on what he had at the time. Now, with the Blu-rays, it's so much easier!

By the way, Mark Bennett published a book, containing many of these maps, but Batman 66 was left out...

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dell wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:28 pm Do we ever get an idea of the length of the Batpoles? The one episode where Alfred has the Joker trapped on the one Batpole gives the impression that they are much taller than I expected. Mainly because of the length of time Alfred lets the Joker drop before bringing him back up. I know its "Batman physics", but...
Dell, you were part of this great thread from earlier in the year. I remember this was a terrific recap of the Batpoles:

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Great stuff. If this was linked to the comics, the trophy room would be back there...
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dell wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:28 pm Do we ever get an idea of the length of the Batpoles? The one episode where Alfred has the Joker trapped on the one Batpole gives the impression that they are much taller than I expected. Mainly because of the length of time Alfred lets the Joker drop before bringing him back up. I know its "Batman physics", but...
The study is on the first floor, so the question is whether there’s a basement/cellar for wine, etc. if so,, then the cave floor is likely 50 or more feet below the study, since it looks 2 to 3 stories high. Without a basement, it’s at least 30 ft so the Batcave ceiling can support the weight of the manor.

Anyone else care to theorize? Heck, it may be 50 ft without the basement. ;)
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