Will Green Hornet ever come to DVD?

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Ultimately, if the Batman Blu Rays have taught us anything, its that TV copies are horrible compared to the way the film originally captured images, so for me, its painful to watch copies recorded from TV. There's so much information lost.
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weirdkorey wrote:
Fatbat wrote:Thank goodness I recorded the entire series UNCUT off the Action Channel years ago...without commercials on VHS @ SP! It actually reran for well over a year or so from episode 1 to the end multiple times.
I actually have a copy of the ones from encore action channel & I'm pretty sure on The Silent Gun there was a scene edited out at the end which accounts to about 30-45 seconds approximately it involves Brit Reid in his office. I don't think any other scenes from any other episode were missing though & I would still consider this probably the best quality version I have seen

True, The Encore Action airing was missing "The Silent Gun" epilogue, and the second parts of the two-parters
also were missing the part one recaps that preceded the theme sequence.
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True. The Silent Gun is missing the epilog and the two parters are all missing the next week promos at the end of pt 1 and the recaps at the beginning of part 2.

There are also some fun little 30 second promos at the end of the first 4 or so eps.

I had a complete set from 16mm and recorded the series from action. I edited in the missing tag all and all the promos along with the in color bumper (used the correct bumper for the pilot as it had music and not just the hornet sound) and fox fanfare / ABC presentation at the end when I transfered everything to DVD years ago. Even did a bonus disc with the two test films, Bruce Lee screen test, appearance on Milton Berle Show, outtakes (from that Bruce Lee import DVD), and misc promos.

Id still buy a blu ray once released but I did put a lot of time into my version of the series.
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NJ_Batfan wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:12 pm
weirdkorey wrote:
Fatbat wrote:Thank goodness I recorded the entire series UNCUT off the Action Channel years ago...without commercials on VHS @ SP! It actually reran for well over a year or so from episode 1 to the end multiple times.
I actually have a copy of the ones from encore action channel & I'm pretty sure on The Silent Gun there was a scene edited out at the end which accounts to about 30-45 seconds approximately it involves Brit Reid in his office. I don't think any other scenes from any other episode were missing though & I would still consider this probably the best quality version I have seen

True, The Encore Action airing was missing "The Silent Gun" epilogue, and the second parts of the two-parters
also were missing the part one recaps that preceded the theme sequence.
Post FX airings in the early 90s, TGH has always suffered a number of edits, such as Dozier's narration over the preview at the end of "Invasion from Outer Space: Part One", where he refers to the concluding episode as a "final" adventure. To me, that meant he was announcing end of the series. I had the FX version on VHS, but its so degraded that I'm afraid of attempting a digital transfer.
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Oh, I love this subject...4 decades in the making, if you think about it.

The Current TV Syndication length on THE GREEN HORNET is 22:30 before commercials - this is the syndication set made c.1985 - when all old TV shows were cut from 25:00/25:30 down to 22:30 for more commercials.

These 22:30 before commercials are the versions that HEROES & ICONS is currently airing on Sundays 2-shows a week (and MeTV and DECADES when they run them) and RETRO TELEVISION (That retro television network that has mostly low-power stations as affiliates.) airs them once a week. "The Silent Gun", although edited has the missing tag scene. The 2-parters have the usual next week/previous week cut.

The only true uncut set turned up from 16mm prints from Woody Wise's old "Hollywood Discount Video"/"Hollywood's Attic" in the late 1980's-Early 1990's - color was decent, and every episode was uncut as aired, complete with The next week/last week on the 2-parters and "The Green Hornet in Color" opening. 2 episodes per tape, the 2-parters on their own tapes. Sadly. he went out of business over a decade ago - sold off to "Nostalgia Family Video" (Who got in some trouble and was forced to shut down) - Woody was *mostly* a Public Domain guy (One of the first video guys in the early 1980's), but he'd slip in a few *ahem* underground titles on his TV List, and and a second *Ahem* underground list of Hollywood Features from the 1930's-1960's. Anyone with true uncut 16mm transfers came from his tapes. If you are tracking down a set, these are the ones to find. If you can actually find them. Originals are 2 per tape, in Yellow and grey boxes with the title "Television Classics" with pictures of various classic TV stars on them. Spine is a simple label with the series title and volume number. His quality was always nice, and had a great selection of movie series - I think any one that was going around he had - and that was back when getting The Columbia Serials and Some of The Universals were difficult. But I digress.

Then there was that set that leaked out from the studio that started to run around c.1990 - nice transfers, some episodes had "Place Commercial Here" tags - but episodes were mixed of edited and unedited. No one knows who the source was but it was shortly after the "Studio Set" of "Batman" episodes started running around.

The first episodes of "The Green Hornet" to run around on VHS were from Canada - CITY TV in Toronto, Ontario (Before they became a big regional station) in the mid-late 1980's ran the episodes. 16mm prints, most appeared uncut - supposedly they DID NOT air all 26 episodes for whatever reason (20th Canada may have not had a full set available?) as only 22 episodes turned up. Or perhaps the person who recorded them only got 22 - who knows - the other 4 were sourced from "someplace else" but the station was unknown. A lot of fans first saw episodes from "Bootlegs" from these broadcasts that made their way to the states. The 2-parters did have their next week/last week material intact.

The show turned up in Chicago - who aired the edited episodes - with ADDITIONAL edits for MORE Commercials in the 1990's pre-dating FX. If you've ever seen copies of oddly edited episodes that run short, these are them! (A handful of other markets did run the show in the 1990's, but a complete list is unknown, and they would have aired the 22:30 length episodes.)

Then of course, the FX broadcasts. Apparently they had their own set of episodes struck up and were not the syndication 22:30 length, nor the later "uncut" episodes ENCORE ACTION aired. Episode lengths varied.

Then there are those two "feature" films, "The Green Hornet" (a/k/a "Kato & The Green Hornet") and "Fury of The Dragon" - the only release that was not "Fake Letterboxed" was the Japanese Laserdiscs from 1991 - those were full screen and looked great - however, they had burned in small Japanese subtitles at the bottom, but were in English. These also had rough looking end credits which were lesser quality than the rest of the "film". (and are chaptered by "episode", although it's the same theatrical 1970's version with extra footage from episodes cut in.) The Official DVD releases (British, Japanese, and French) of both were "fake widescreen", but had English tracks. There is not official domestic version of either on DVD, and only the first got a VHS release "officially" in the states in the 1990's.

Beware of the "fake" Hong Kong DVD Releases - those are just dubs of TV airings. (and supposedly were created stateside from the same outfit who did the set of Angela Mao Kung-Fu films among others rarer films from old 16mm prints and beat up 35mm prints!)
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MysticNitekatt wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:07 am Oh, I love this subject...4 decades in the making, if you think about it.

The Current TV Syndication length on THE GREEN HORNET is 22:30 before commercials - this is the syndication set made c.1985 - when all old TV shows were cut from 25:00/25:30 down to 22:30 for more commercials.

These 22:30 before commercials are the versions that HEROES & ICONS is currently airing on Sundays 2-shows a week (and MeTV and DECADES when they run them) and RETRO TELEVISION (That retro television network that has mostly low-power stations as affiliates.) airs them once a week. "The Silent Gun", although edited has the missing tag scene. The 2-parters have the usual next week/previous week cut.

The only true uncut set turned up from 16mm prints from Woody Wise's old "Hollywood Discount Video"/"Hollywood's Attic" in the late 1980's-Early 1990's - color was decent, and every episode was uncut as aired, complete with The next week/last week on the 2-parters and "The Green Hornet in Color" opening. 2 episodes per tape, the 2-parters on their own tapes. Sadly. he went out of business over a decade ago - sold off to "Nostalgia Family Video" (Who got in some trouble and was forced to shut down) - Woody was *mostly* a Public Domain guy (One of the first video guys in the early 1980's), but he'd slip in a few *ahem* underground titles on his TV List, and and a second *Ahem* underground list of Hollywood Features from the 1930's-1960's. Anyone with true uncut 16mm transfers came from his tapes. If you are tracking down a set, these are the ones to find. If you can actually find them. Originals are 2 per tape, in Yellow and grey boxes with the title "Television Classics" with pictures of various classic TV stars on them. Spine is a simple label with the series title and volume number. His quality was always nice, and had a great selection of movie series - I think any one that was going around he had - and that was back when getting The Columbia Serials and Some of The Universals were difficult. But I digress.

Then there was that set that leaked out from the studio that started to run around c.1990 - nice transfers, some episodes had "Place Commercial Here" tags - but episodes were mixed of edited and unedited. No one knows who the source was but it was shortly after the "Studio Set" of "Batman" episodes started running around.

The first episodes of "The Green Hornet" to run around on VHS were from Canada - CITY TV in Toronto, Ontario (Before they became a big regional station) in the mid-late 1980's ran the episodes. 16mm prints, most appeared uncut - supposedly they DID NOT air all 26 episodes for whatever reason (20th Canada may have not had a full set available?) as only 22 episodes turned up. Or perhaps the person who recorded them only got 22 - who knows - the other 4 were sourced from "someplace else" but the station was unknown. A lot of fans first saw episodes from "Bootlegs" from these broadcasts that made their way to the sates. The 2-parters did have their next week/last week material intact.

The show turned up in Chicago - who aired the edited episodes - with ADDITIONAL edits for MORE Commercials in the 1990's pre-dating FX. If you've ever seen copies of oddly edited episodes that run short, these are them! (A handful of other markets did run the show in the 1990's, but a complete list is unknown, and they would have aired the 22:30 length episodes.)

Then of course, the FX broadcasts. Apparently they had their own set of episodes struck up and were not the syndication 22:30 length, nor the later "uncut" episodes ENCORE ACTION aired. Episode lengths varied.

Then there are those two "feature" films, "The Green Hornet" (a/k/a "Kato & The Green Hornet") and "Fury of The Dragon" - the only release that was not "Fake Letterboxed" was the Japanese Laserdiscs from 1991 - those were full screen and looked great - however, they had burned in small Japanese subtitles at the bottom, but were in English. These also had rough looking end credits which were lesser quality than the rest of the "film". (and are chaptered by "episode", although it's the same theatrical 1970's version with extra footage from episodes cut in.) The Official DVD releases (British, Japanese, and French) of both were "fake widescreen", but had English tracks. There is not official domestic version of either on DVD, and only the first got a VHS release "officially" in the states in the 1990's.

Beware of the "fake" Hong Kong DVD Releases - those are just dubs of TV airings. (and supposedly were created stateside from the same outfit who did the set of Angela Mao Kung-Fu films among others rarer films from old 16mm prints and beat up 35mm prints!)
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