SEE JazzInc Julie Newmar head sculpt and Lynda Carter announcement video

[BATWINGED HORNET]

How would one verbalize the steps they should take to improve the sculpt? For me, there’s really not much guidance one could give to them beyond: “it doesn’t look like Julie Newmar.” They don’t need input from others to come to that determination or to make changes/improvements. They need only look at images of Julie Newmar. It just seems self-evident.

Agreed. Or perhaps Jazz Inc should have contracted professional fine artists capable of / known for museum-level, realistic 1:1 sculpts, create a Newmar head (no matter the TV series season), then scanned that as the base. The notable level of the current figure's inaccuracies, and the fact the company seemed to think the prototype was "it" / "good enough" to issue the product shot as part of their pre-order announcements strongly suggest Jazz Inc. was beyond corrections. The figure is not, especially when there were/are widely available, innumerable publicity photos of Newmar from either season of the series, and thanks to Blu-rays, there's additional high-definition sources Jazz Inc could've referred to in order to take even a step toward Newmar's actual likeness.

If the prototype used to pitch the pre-order is the final appearance for the item, then its a hard pass for me. I collect 1:6 scale figures based on TV and movie characters, and a few from series (Star Trek: TOS, Bond, Star Wars: OT, some DCEU & MCU movies etc.) but i've never been a completist, meaning, some series figures suffer from poor facial sculpts and/or body types, so its easy to pass on any of such low quality. For Batman '66 figures, the same guiding belief applies: extremely close-to-perfect likeness: easy purchase. Poor: the company is not getting a dime from me off by playing the nostalgia angle.

[BatToys]

I suggested a really good sculptor but JazzInc and them had a difference of opinion.

The sculpt isn't bad but a little too cartoony. But the custom body looks like Julie. Maybe someone will make a more aftermarket realistic head sculpt?

The one they really need to get perfect is the Lynda Carter Wonder Woman because that would attract a lot more new buyers like women who would normally not want anything connected to comic books.

[BiffPow]

It sounds like you tried to help out. Commendable.

Okay, BatToys, here’s probably the one thing that bugs me most about their sculpt: that chin.

I’m not saying it would fix their sculpt, but if they could at least get rid of that chin they borrowed from King Tut, that would help.

This is just a quick and crude Photoshop edit (so please overlook) in an attempt to show what the sculpt might look like without that block of a chin. I just used the screenshot you posted, so the image is fuzzy. Hopefully it gets across the idea.

Again, this is not a cure-all, just one suggestion. Feel free to share with Jazz Inc.

If anyone here thinks I’m wrong about rounding down that chin, also welcome to comment. It won’t hurt my feelings.

[AndyFish]

When you look at the earliest "prototype" pics in this thread to the latest ones of the finished figure it doesn't look to me like they took one single suggestion.
That said, I'm reluctant to post in this topic because I'm not even remotely interested in this figure, and even less inclined in doing the work for a company that intends to sell these at a pretty high price point, quality control should be internal and not folks like BatToys who is spending more time on this than their own designers apparently.

Chuck or Ruben on this board would be the sculptors of expertise but see the above, why should they do it for free? I'd imagine in trying to nail a likeness of a character that had multiple appearances pick one and use that. Me? I would have used the first two Catwoman episodes; in my opinion probably the best pair of episodes in the series-- and Julie was a bit leaner face wise than she was in the later episodes. She was also a lot blonder.

Hot Toys clearly used the movie as the basis for the Adam figure-- I really dislike the floppy ear and I hate the skin tones on both Batman and Robin. If they came out today I probably would pass. As for upgrades-- at this price point that shouldn't even be a need, I had to go with the Tony Mei suit on the hot toys figure which was a great improvement, but HT should have done it right the first time.

But again, I don't think I'd pay $60 for this figure-- the only 1/6 Bat Villain I own is The Joker and that was gifted to me.

Now if someone wants to license the first Batman -- Lewis Wilson, I'd be on board for that 100%.

[BiffPow]

… quality control should be internal and not folks like BatToys who is spending more time on this than their own designers apparently.

Exactly.

[BatToys]

I agree with BiffPow about the chin. It does look like it's protruding out too much. But I disagree with him, I do see Julie in it. It's just a bit more cartoony.

JazzInc did talk with Chuck Williams but it didn't work out as far as I know. Would like to have seen Chuck sculpt two- Batman and Catwoman. I liked his 1/6 Batman's Adam West sculpt. I do think Chuck would have sculpted a more realistic Julie Newmar.

[BatToys]

I forwarded to JazzInc the BiffPow criticism only because I partially agreed with it and he replied

"we will amend the sculpt"

[Planejack777]

This is leaving me with little hope of their 66 Adam West Batman being any better then the Sideshow version. Is Joost getting Lazy, or just too fat in dining off of the cheap Chinese labor….or both?

[AndyFish]

I assume by Sideshow you mean Hot Toys since they distribute through them.
They've gotten a bit sloppy-- the two 70s Spider-Man figures they just solicited the Nicholas Hammond '77 and the '78 Supaidaman both have raised lenses which are not accurate-- in the Japanese figure the eyes were white not metallic. There are also problems with the head shapes and the lack of leather boots on the '77 and some issues with details on the '78.

It's a shame, we're back to customizers usually having the superior options. As for JazzInc assuring they'll address this latest criticism; I admire your positivity BatToys but they've seemingly ignored every other suggestion.

That said, if you like the figure bully for you-- buy it, enjoy it, customize it however you want.
And if you don't, like me, don't buy it.

But as always I'm happy for folks who are excited by a new prospect.

[Planejack777]

Yes, my mistake…Hot Toys.

[Chuck Williams]

I agree with BiffPow about the chin. It does look like it's protruding out too much. But I disagree with him, I do see Julie in it. It's just a bit more cartoony.

JazzInc did talk with Chuck Williams but it didn't work out over 2 issues. I do think Chuck would have sculpted more realistic.

I'm curious. What two issues?

[BatToys]

I should put a punctuation period after work out. By two issues I was meaning two characters that could be made Catwoman and Batman. Sorry for the ambiguity.

[greatlakes6]

I forwarded to JazzInc the BiffPow criticism only because I partially agreed with it and he replied

"we will amend the sculpt"

I had messaged Joost directly a while back regarding the chin. They were going to look into it. Hopefully they take it seriously as it will make a huge difference.

[BatToys]

JazzInc angry sculpt.

[BiffPow]

SMH.

Seriously, when I first read the post, I thought you meant that JazzInc was angry at how the sculpt turned out before I realized that it is supposed to be a sculpt of an angry Julie Newmar.

If you had said this was a Chinese or Korean actress from one of the C-dramas or K-dramas excitedly engaged in a scripted conversation about a coworker’s boyfriend, I would have believed that WAY before I would’ve thought it was an angry Julie Newmar Catwoman expression.

Again, it’s a very nice sculpt and a pretty good likeness - of our friend who owns an Asian restaurant.

I’m guessing the belt isn’t finished because it’s a prototype, but it will be a complete belt?