Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

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Re: Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

Post by BATWINGED HORNET » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:29 am

Jim Akin wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:41 pm
Pauline's shepherd's crook becomes a sleeping-gas gun, eliminating her seductive come-on to Robin. Even with treachery in her heart, the Bo Peep character, like Robin, exudes innocence. Sexing up their scene together would've sounded a false note, IMHO.
I don't think so; Robin--or Dick Grayson--was more than aware of the opposite sex, even to the point where Wayne chastised him in the Chandell arc for having his own girl-happy/romantic feelings on the brain when wondering about Harriet & Chandell. One could say Grayson was not innocent in the sense of being naïve or indifferent to women.

As to the reasons for adapting "The Joker's Comedy Capers" comic as a Riddler story, I think the silent-movie disguises probably had a lot to do with it. Frank Gorshin's skills at mimicry certainly helped him pull off the Chaplin impersonation, but even if Cesar Romero were capable of an equally impressive imitation, he'd have been hard-pressed, as the tallest guy in every scene, to sell himself as "The Little Tramp." And of course, in the comics Joker's skin really is chalk-white, and make-up and masks are always convincing, but the TV team would have had to negotiate Joker's disguises (as Chaplin and the Snidely Whiplash bad guy) against Romero's customary whiteface and the famous mustache it concealed. If makeup- and prosthetic-based disguises were too unwieldy for clean-shaven Malachi Throne as False Face, I don't see how they could have worked with the Joker.
I think your first point was the key: Gorshin's strong talent for impressions made him a natural for this kind of story; he was so versatile with other characters, while framing it with his Riddler persona. Romero was not capable of "becoming" other characters and/or actors as a disguise for the Joker.
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Re: Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

Post by Jim Akin » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:02 pm

BATWINGED HORNET wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:29 am
I don't think so; Robin--or Dick Grayson--was more than aware of the opposite sex, even to the point where Wayne chastised him in the Chandell arc for having his own girl-happy/romantic feelings on the brain when wondering about Harriet & Chandell. One could say Grayson was not innocent in the sense of being naïve or indifferent to women.
My main point was about the innocent connotations of Pauline's Bo Peep disguise, but I do think Robin was very naive in the ways of femmes, especially of the fatale variety.

IMHO, in the 1966 Bat-universe, Dick Grayson was plenty aware of *girls,* and he clearly had some experience (and success) with them, but he was far from a ladies' man. An aggressive come-on from a worldly *woman* most likely would have reduced him to jelly. Think how tongue-tied and hot under the collar he got when Pussycat flirted with him. Or worse, it might have compelled him him to try to respond in kind, with awkward macho banter like he adopted after Catwoman drugged him, and the "Susie baby" swagger he feigned when trying to infiltrate the Bad Pennies. In both cases, alpha-male bravado were "tells" that we weren't seeing the true Robin (or Dick Grayson).

More to the point, there was no need for Pauline to play seductress to catch Robin unawares. (That's arguably evidence of a different sort of naiveté, especially after his run-in with Lydia Limpet.) I'm glad they decided to rework the scene without trying to insert any sexual tension.

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Re: Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

Post by robinboyblunderer » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:20 pm

BATWINGED HORNET wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:29 am


I don't think so; Robin--or Dick Grayson--was more than aware of the opposite sex, even to the point where Wayne chastised him in the Chandell arc for having his own girl-happy/romantic feelings on the brain when wondering about Harriet & Chandell. One could say Grayson was not innocent in the sense of being naïve or indifferent to women.



Good point. He was a normal healthy high schooler. What Robin wasn't prepared for nor experienced enough to deal with were Catwoman or the various molls he encountered; either playing the demure "helpless victim" or being assertive, mocking, teasing and knowing in their outfits and attitude, it was all too much for him and why he often ended up captured by them.

Changing GIRL to PAULINE was good, as was replacing the compact with the shepherd's crook but the rest of the scene would've worked just as well with her leading Robin away from the Batmobile and pulling off her bonnet. Again, the sheer beauty and attitude of Pauline as played by Sherry Jackson would naturally be overwhelming for Robin.

Didn't Batman even reassure the boy wonder during the Marsha episodes about lack of experience making him more susceptible to her drug?

Also, there'd be more of Pauline in the story all together. I never understood why she hangs around the lumberyard and is effectively taken off the board as it were as the second part continued. Also it would've been nice to have more scenes with Robin as well.

I enjoy this two parter as filmed but this is definitely a case where with some minor tweaks, I would've enjoyed it more. But I'm glad we can read this version at least.

Though I cut it off you make a very good point about Gorshin and mimicry. He works as a villain in top hat and moustache more than the Joker's outre appearance would've.

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Re: Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

Post by bat-rss » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:43 am

Holy screwups! In preparing to record the episode, I discovered that the B&W file of the first draft that I posted only contains the first 16 pages, but I also have a COLOR scan of the first draft that includes the entire script! So here it is! Profuse bat-apologies!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3scwlh7pmtse ... R.pdf?dl=0

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Re: Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

Post by bat-rss » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:13 am

Keith Mayo wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:38 am
Any explanation why they changed it from a Joker arc to the Riddler?
I went back to episode 22 of our podcast to listen to our take on this episode from a few years ago. Our response to that thought was, basically, "Do you REALLY want to see Cesar Romero try to act like Charlie Chaplin? Me, neither!"

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Re: Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

Post by chrisbcritter » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:17 am

Thanks for the complete first draft, bat-rss - Similar to the other two, and yet another ending!

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Re: Script: THE SILENT FILM CAPERS, by Dick Carr

Post by High C » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:14 am

Thanks, Tim, for the correction.

As soon as I saw the ending with all the horseplay, so to speak,and the earlier stuntwork on the roof, I knew none of it would fly, of course. And immediately there's the annotation, 'write out chase and tag.'
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