Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
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Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
I think I know which Bat-Villain(ess) most of you will choose, but I've got to ask...........
Which Batman villain or villainess that was featured in the Batman comics before the show aired would you have liked to have seen on the show, and who would you have liked to have seen portray him/her?
Which Batman villain or villainess that was featured in the Batman comics before the show aired would you have liked to have seen on the show, and who would you have liked to have seen portray him/her?
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
The Sea Hag.She was a Batman Villainess in the 1966 Batman Topps Cards Series.The Sea Hag was a beautiful and EVIL Scuba Diving Villainess.Her Batman Card is number 14a:"Danger In The Depths."She was also wily and cunning.Scuba Diver Zale Perry could have played The Sea Hag.
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As for villainesses who actually appeared in the comics, as stated by the OP, my choice is, I believe, the obvious one.Riddler Fan wrote:I think I know which Bat-Villain(ess) most of you will choose, but I've got to ask...........
Which Batman villain or villainess that was featured in the Batman comics before the show aired would you have liked to have seen on the show, and who would you have liked to have seen portray him/her?
Poison Ivy, whose first DC appearance came in June 1966 and, it's claimed that she was pitched to William Dozier for season 3.
Unlike many people, I would not have cast Ann-Margret. Two reasons: 1. She wasn't doing TV at the time and would have blown out the budget and 2. She was too callow at that time to portray the character effectively anyway.
My vote would go to Tina Louise.
'I thought Siren was perfect for Joan.'--Stanley Ralph Ross, writer of 'The Wail of the Siren'
My hobbies include gazing at the Siren and doing her bidding, evil or otherwise.
'She had a devastating, hypnotic effect on all the men.'--A schoolmate describing Joan Collins at age 17
My hobbies include gazing at the Siren and doing her bidding, evil or otherwise.
'She had a devastating, hypnotic effect on all the men.'--A schoolmate describing Joan Collins at age 17
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
My vote would go to Barbara Rhoades for Poison Ivy.
Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
Condiment King: A villain who makes use of various condiments, sometimes capable of causing Anaphylactic shock, as his weapons.
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
Citizens,
I think it would have been interesting to see Doctor Hugo Strange, who appeared in comics appear on the show played by Vincent Price or Telly Savalas, both of whom did television at that time.
Price as Doctor Strange would have precluded him from portraying Egghead, but might have played into the types of roles for which he became famous.
Mr. Deathtrap
I think it would have been interesting to see Doctor Hugo Strange, who appeared in comics appear on the show played by Vincent Price or Telly Savalas, both of whom did television at that time.
Price as Doctor Strange would have precluded him from portraying Egghead, but might have played into the types of roles for which he became famous.
Mr. Deathtrap
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
I quoted myself to add a disclaimer--I would NOT have wanted to see Poison Ivy if her appearances had resulted in The Siren not being created, OK?High C wrote: Poison Ivy, whose first DC appearance came in June 1966 and, it's claimed that she was pitched to William Dozier for season 3.
Unlike many people, I would not have cast Ann-Margret. Two reasons: 1. She wasn't doing TV at the time and would have blown out the budget and 2. She was too callow at that time to portray the character effectively anyway.
My vote would go to Tina Louise.
And as for a male villain from the comics, here are my three suggestions:
1. Two-Face. Even though the show was planning to use a different version than the classic one of Harvey Dent. (The setup was to be a TV anchorman who had a klieg light blow up in his face.)
2. Spellbinder. Here's his 'bio' from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spellbinder_(DC_Comics)
Given the amount of hypnotic characters and situations the show used, this would have been right in their wheelhouse and could have been very good, IMO, given the proper casting.
3. Scarecrow. I think the writers were aware of him, given the 'fear gas' Shame used in S3, which seems like a ripoff of this character. Again, with the right casting, I think it could have been a winner.
Spellbinder would be my top suggestion here.
'I thought Siren was perfect for Joan.'--Stanley Ralph Ross, writer of 'The Wail of the Siren'
My hobbies include gazing at the Siren and doing her bidding, evil or otherwise.
'She had a devastating, hypnotic effect on all the men.'--A schoolmate describing Joan Collins at age 17
My hobbies include gazing at the Siren and doing her bidding, evil or otherwise.
'She had a devastating, hypnotic effect on all the men.'--A schoolmate describing Joan Collins at age 17
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
My choice is Poison Ivy, which I knew would be a popular choice. I do think that Tina Louise would have been perfectly cast to play her. Some have suggested that Barbara Rhoades would have been a good choise to play Ivy, but she was only 19 years old when the show began and was (of course) virtually unknown at the time. Her first movie role was in 1968's Disney film "The Shakiest Gun In The West") and she didn't make another movie for 5 years. Her best known role was as Marsha Mason's best friend in "The Good Bye Girl" in 1977.
I also would have liked to seen Scarecrow on the show as well. As to whom I would have liked to see play him, perhaps Richard Long, Fritz Weaver, Larry Hovis, Larry Hagman or even Dick Van Dyke?
I also would have liked to seen Scarecrow on the show as well. As to whom I would have liked to see play him, perhaps Richard Long, Fritz Weaver, Larry Hovis, Larry Hagman or even Dick Van Dyke?
Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
CLAYFACE!! To my knowledge, Clayface has NEVER been seen on ANY live-action Batman story.
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Just to clarify, I have always said that Barbara would have been the best choice for Ivy if the show had still been on in 1969, since by then she would have already had her two movies where she made a big impression with her Amazonian prowess (in addition to "Shakiest Gun In The West" she also showed off her strength in the Robert Wagner-Mary Tyler Moore comedy "Don't Just Stand There"). She was projecting gravitas and maturity way beyond her years at that point (in contrast to Ann-Margret).Riddler Fan wrote:My choice is Poison Ivy, which I knew would be a popular choice. I do think that Tina Louise would have been perfectly cast to play her. Some have suggested that Barbara Rhoades would have been a good choise to play Ivy, but she was only 19 years old when the show began and was (of course) virtually unknown at the time. Her first movie role was in 1968's Disney film "The Shakiest Gun In The West") and she didn't make another movie for 5 years. Her best known role was as Marsha Mason's best friend in "The Good Bye Girl" in 1977.
If I'm forced to go with a choice for Ivy in 1967, there is a case to be made for Tina Louise and in the wildcard category, Lee Grant, who had the better villainess/evil quality.
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
Citizens,
It might have been interesting to see and actor like Danny Kaye play the Bat-villain the Cavalier. His inclusion might have appealed to the potential European audience to whom villains like the Archer and Minstrel were intended to appeal. In fact, Cavalier might have precluded use of Archer, who was a Superman villain anyway.
Mr. Deathtrap
It might have been interesting to see and actor like Danny Kaye play the Bat-villain the Cavalier. His inclusion might have appealed to the potential European audience to whom villains like the Archer and Minstrel were intended to appeal. In fact, Cavalier might have precluded use of Archer, who was a Superman villain anyway.
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
Two Face (Harvey Dent) and Scarecrow.
Two Face is my favorite Batman bad guy. Not sure how his story and hate for Batman would have played out in the more campy style. But it would have been fun to see.
Two Face is my favorite Batman bad guy. Not sure how his story and hate for Batman would have played out in the more campy style. But it would have been fun to see.
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Danny Kaye as a Bat-Villain would have been quite interesting. At the time the show aired, he was hosting his own TV show, but his film career was winding down. He was 53 when Batman aired and I think he would have welcomed a chance to break his good guy image. But, Danny Kaye had made a few enemies in Hollywood and was sort on the outs in his later years. He died in 1987 at the age of 74.
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Re: Your favorite Bat-Villain(ess) that never made the show
I agree that if Barbara Rhoades had been a bit better known and a bit older she would have been a great choice to play Poison Ivy. There is something in her that makes me think she'd make a terrific villainess. As for Lee Grant? I to think she would have made a great Poison Ivy. She was a bit old for the role thogh, she was 41 when Batman aired, but her TV and film career were going great after being blacklisted for most of the late 1950's and early 1960's. She was great on Peyton Place and Valley of The Dolls.epaddon wrote:Just to clarify, I have always said that Barbara would have been the best choice for Ivy if the show had still been on in 1969, since by then she would have already had her two movies where she made a big impression with her Amazonian prowess (in addition to "Shakiest Gun In The West" she also showed off her strength in the Robert Wagner-Mary Tyler Moore comedy "Don't Just Stand There"). She was projecting gravitas and maturity way beyond her years at that point (in contrast to Ann-Margret).Riddler Fan wrote:My choice is Poison Ivy, which I knew would be a popular choice. I do think that Tina Louise would have been perfectly cast to play her. Some have suggested that Barbara Rhoades would have been a good choise to play Ivy, but she was only 19 years old when the show began and was (of course) virtually unknown at the time. Her first movie role was in 1968's Disney film "The Shakiest Gun In The West") and she didn't make another movie for 5 years. Her best known role was as Marsha Mason's best friend in "The Good Bye Girl" in 1977.
If I'm forced to go with a choice for Ivy in 1967, there is a case to be made for Tina Louise and in the wildcard category, Lee Grant, who had the better villainess/evil quality.
Tina Louise was 32 when Batman aired and I think that is the right age for Poison Ivy and her red hair and tall stature makes her very imposing. I know she'd have loved to play a villainess to help shatter the role of Ginger Grant on Gilligan's Island. The role that made her famous was the role she despised. The late Sherwood Schwartz told many stories about what a pain Louise was on Gilligan's Island. Her most famous complaint was she assumed the show was about a movie star trapped on an island with a few other characters.
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The thing about Lee was that even though she was 41 at the time she still could pass for a decade younger, especially in a great guest shot on "The Big Valley" during this era. And yes, her "Peyton Place" stint as Stella Chernak may have been the best thing to come out of that series.